Ah, I see you're a bit informed about the nr. 1 activist bullshit...
Actually, if you think about - if you know the origins of a construct, it doesn't cause you wondering why things are as they are today. This only happens if you're missing lots of pieces of information.
I think it's also mostly my problem of misunderstandings in conversations with people from the English-speaking sphere that this sphere is so deeply convinced in its consciousness and subconsciousness that "women=humans" is a thing that can't exist without feminism. Say something bad about feminism and you're a misogynist right away to them... That empowerment for women could also happen without it, this is so much out of their own ken like a life without God to someone who believed in him ever since he can remember.
I think, as some in the (mainly West) German (I guess) "activism for men"-sphere (that already exists too) put it: The East German women are a real pain in the ass for the feminists because they just headed out and became engineers, technians and whatever all by themselves without rambling about their gender 24/7. They didn't just talk about something they wanted to become for decades, they just took the challenge and did it. Through that, they're a huge pain in the ass of feminists because they show "if you invest your efforts into doing something instead of just complaining how much your surroundings and society don't let you do it, then you'll get what you want and not by claiming someone may deliver it to your lap for free". Because feminists mainly want to achieve something via the passive-aggressive "I cry and scream for as long as I don't get what I want". Like some dependent baby (so to say)...
Also, the example of the East German women shows: Equality can come totally without feminism. The ideologiy is no must-requirement for this to happen. And, for any ideology this only to exist as a hypothetical possibility is like a stroke to the grave, you can imagine... God forbid, if someone tries this out practically! Who's gonna need feminism then if this works?
...Ah, I have to think in this kind of different systems/hierarchies so fucking often...
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Actually, if you think about - if you know the origins of a construct, it doesn't cause you wondering why things are as they are today.
This only happens if you're missing lots of pieces of information.
I think it's also mostly my problem of misunderstandings in conversations with people from the English-speaking sphere that this sphere is so deeply convinced in its consciousness and subconsciousness that "women=humans" is a thing that can't exist without feminism. Say something bad about feminism and you're a misogynist right away to them...
That empowerment for women could also happen without it, this is so much out of their own ken like a life without God to someone who believed in him ever since he can remember.
I think, as some in the (mainly West) German (I guess) "activism for men"-sphere (that already exists too) put it: The East German women are a real pain in the ass for the feminists because they just headed out and became engineers, technians and whatever all by themselves without rambling about their gender 24/7. They didn't just talk about something they wanted to become for decades, they just took the challenge and did it.
Through that, they're a huge pain in the ass of feminists because they show "if you invest your efforts into doing something instead of just complaining how much your surroundings and society don't let you do it, then you'll get what you want and not by claiming someone may deliver it to your lap for free".
Because feminists mainly want to achieve something via the passive-aggressive "I cry and scream for as long as I don't get what I want". Like some dependent baby (so to say)...
Also, the example of the East German women shows: Equality can come totally without feminism. The ideologiy is no must-requirement for this to happen.
And, for any ideology this only to exist as a hypothetical possibility is like a stroke to the grave, you can imagine...
God forbid, if someone tries this out practically!
Who's gonna need feminism then if this works?
...Ah, I have to think in this kind of different systems/hierarchies so fucking often...