I don't see it as a "need", I rather see it as something that comes by itself, even if nobody interferes and lets people do whatever they want. They are always going to elect a leader among themselves, if not one overtakes the task by himself without telling him (but with those you're already quickly at those which in the core point have evil intentions). Depending on how humans individually are shaped throughout their life, they change into a passive position then and let their leader do whatever he wants or not. In order to prevent circumstances like the world has now, you need to apply structural measures and means which force the mass of the faithful sheep to take care about what their leader does and measures and means that they actually can effectively do this. So to say: If you do a lot of shit as a leader, then you are quickly to be gone from your position, quicker than you can see.
The question of evil within humans is a different matter, but I'd find it too big to discuss it right now in addition to this subject.
That's why the idea of soviets, which means council is that everyone takes part in everything. If people say I trust that person sooner or later a corrupted one will come that's why everyone should be involved. True democracy.Not a bourgeois this one is fake just like 'European socialism'.
European democracy, there you said something... I think I wrote something for the last elections for the European parliament. It more was like a sum-up of things, but in the end I realized: The thing with the European parliament and what surrounds them, actually is nothing more than a torso of a democracy. Democracy like in its first days as it has gone viral in Europe. A parliament which can't make own suggestions, they can only nod or say no to something and that maybe can change personnel once in a while of these ones that bring up the suggesstions to them - that's not democracy, that's more like the system during the times where the king slowly was ousted out of the system of reign and it was the first stage to begin with. "Primitive", in one word.
ADD: Went back and found what I was a talking about:
Yes, exactly I just read your entry, they do not have actual power plus the elections themselves, it is not like any person from street can be elected. And then they are just for decoration. In 1800s the German parliament was a good example of democracy and even socialist party legitimately used it to gain some influence. But now it is a joke everywhere.
And those idiots keep wondering why you can't win peoples' attention for this EU election mumbo jumbo too... Well, I don't think it has anything to do with that people get the system, it rather will be the case that they know nothing about how Brussels works at all. Even if you set out yourself to understand it, you'll be soon like "I'm overwhelmed, I don't understand that much of information at once".
It is probably meant that way. The less people understand the more they get frustrated and discouraged to even figure out anything and just take everything as it is.
Maybe there's even more to get: You know, you can think for yourself if the big firms want real democracy and possibilities of the people to decide or not. Perhaps that form of "democracy" that the European parliament and its whole surroundings is a test sphere of getting democracy "built back", reduced, again and see if people let themselves be fooled. One eventually can't think for a second that the bourgeousie liked it as the dumb plebs took it for themselves to govern and administrate itself.
Well, sure they like to claim that masses are stupid and need to be governed. Which is getting true nowadays. But it is not by nature but rather by the process of making everyone dumb through media propaganda, useless consumption, bad education etc.
No, I meant that differently. Just trying to get democracy reduced, to get the people supplied with a parliament and a state system that you know from previous centuries - and see if you get away with it. Just a try, maybe with the intention to do more if it doesn't interest anyone.
No. Silently trying to strip down ("zurückbauen" ist the German term I have in mind, but I have trouble finding a proper translation for it) the system that reigns people and see if they take even notice or not. If they don't, maybe try the next step of abandoning something within the system that gave them power before.
Like when the king tries to reestablish his power and get the plebs ousted again from part-taking in their governing.
![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
no subject
Depending on how humans individually are shaped throughout their life, they change into a passive position then and let their leader do whatever he wants or not.
In order to prevent circumstances like the world has now, you need to apply structural measures and means which force the mass of the faithful sheep to take care about what their leader does and measures and means that they actually can effectively do this. So to say: If you do a lot of shit as a leader, then you are quickly to be gone from your position, quicker than you can see.
The question of evil within humans is a different matter, but I'd find it too big to discuss it right now in addition to this subject.
no subject
no subject
A parliament which can't make own suggestions, they can only nod or say no to something and that maybe can change personnel once in a while of these ones that bring up the suggesstions to them - that's not democracy, that's more like the system during the times where the king slowly was ousted out of the system of reign and it was the first stage to begin with. "Primitive", in one word.
ADD: Went back and found what I was a talking about:
http://matrixmann.livejournal.com/100171.html
no subject
no subject
Well, I don't think it has anything to do with that people get the system, it rather will be the case that they know nothing about how Brussels works at all. Even if you set out yourself to understand it, you'll be soon like "I'm overwhelmed, I don't understand that much of information at once".
no subject
no subject
Maybe there's even more to get: You know, you can think for yourself if the big firms want real democracy and possibilities of the people to decide or not.
Perhaps that form of "democracy" that the European parliament and its whole surroundings is a test sphere of getting democracy "built back", reduced, again and see if people let themselves be fooled.
One eventually can't think for a second that the bourgeousie liked it as the dumb plebs took it for themselves to govern and administrate itself.
no subject
no subject
Just trying to get democracy reduced, to get the people supplied with a parliament and a state system that you know from previous centuries - and see if you get away with it.
Just a try, maybe with the intention to do more if it doesn't interest anyone.
no subject
no subject
Like when the king tries to reestablish his power and get the plebs ousted again from part-taking in their governing.
no subject
no subject