Erinnerung

[matrixmann]

Originally posted by matrixmann at Erinnerung

1986: Pripyat, Ukraine. During an excercise of a complete blackout in the nuclear power plant "Chernobyl" an explosion in one of the reactors happened. First kept under the rug for days what truly has happened, later the whole town and surrounding area was evacuated.
During the following months, a sarcophagus as a means to stop the worst was built above the reactor to prevent the meltdown to soak into the ground and the radioactive dust to escape into the air.
Still until today it remains not absolutely sure what were the true origins of the fallout, if either purely human error or the addition of an earthquake directly under the reactor which it didn't suit for.

2002: Erfurt, Germany. A former student of an academic high school comes up to his school in the midmorning during the yearly period of the exams and kills 16 people as well as himself in a killing spree.

Comments

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

About Chernobyl - it was late USSR pretty much capitalism so not so much society-oriented country any more. Second, if you compare it to Fukoshima it is nothing. So as usual disasters in western world are purely due to horrific accidents and in the USSR due to communists. This is how they like to think.

[matrixmann]

I admit I don't know anything about late Ukrainian SSR, how things and circumstances were there at the end of its time.
Compared to Fukushima it's nothing, that's right. Chernobyl only saw one reactor of four blowing up; Fukushima saw five of six (!). Additionally, there's no doubt to it that a tsunami wave devastated the area otherwise also.

As far as I know about the issue in Ukraine - but these days this still gets put into the corner of "conspiracy theories"; nevertheless people who seem to hear about it actually don't find it that illogical, and you know, by order everything in a communist state has to be tragedy due to stupidity and Neanderthalism: Allegedly in reality there happened an earthquake under the power plant just as the planned excercise was scheduled. Before the emergency test run started, the trouble already was on the loose.
Due to nobody taking into account to build such a facility strong against such natural disasters back then that it's able to take some bits, the matter was hopeless, they had no chance in that moment.
Could have happened the same way anywhere else in another country, as all of them didn't calculate such things into their construction plans for their nuclear power plants build in the 70s and 80s.
The facility in Japan specifically, they even made the fatal error voluntarily of reducing the cliffs that the power plant originally would stand on just to save the efforts and associated costs of pumping the sea water for cooling up the whole cliff. They build it like "well, there will be no tsunami comming this way in Japan" (on volcano-created islands!).
Hadn't they done this, the whole issue would have ended differently, maybe the power plant even wouldn't have seen more than little puddles of water. The plant, I think, was basically build in the 70s, enhanced over time again and again...
...Cool story, right?

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I didn't research much this issue myself. In any case, things of greater magnitude happened in the west and forgotten but Chernobyl will always be a sore thorn in everybody's butt to point out.

[matrixmann]

When I take anniversaries into my repertoire, usually I have to go research a little bit what exactly has happened so that I don't write total bullshit in the texts.
The thing with the earthquake I've been told by someone who, let's say, regularly gets enraged about Western media and politicians pulling everything the Soviets have ever created into dirt, acting snobbish about it like it couldn't happen to them, they ate pure wisdom somewhere. And he claimed to have seen some documentary on French/German channel Arte once, around the end of the 90s, where this theory got rolled out and he claimed to have never seen it again, which I have also found as claims by other people as doing a little research about this. Like, there really went something on air once.
And those who claimed this found the theory also relatively logical.
As, you know, by command Russians and Soviets always need to be idiots, even if they haven't been - and that's another little thing that would make it not unprobable to be true. It wouldn't be the first thing the West claimed different facts about a thing only to put emphasis on their general political agenda.

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

What mostly irritate me about people like this is that they claim that documentaries have any validity. As if you cannot make up a documentary . The same way as an article in a newspaper or a text in a history textbook. As far as I am concerned any documentaries can be shoved in their asses if they want to use them as a proof.

[matrixmann]

It depends on if you already got into touch yourself with documentaries where you could say yourself it's wrong what they say in there.
Experience before your own eyes and ears, that's something elemental showing to yourself what is possible.

In concrete, when people do the job of pulling apart what isn't right of all things in a piece of video report, I see more subtile psychology happening these days and careful video editing.
Like, showing a set of pictures and moving video, accentuated with a certain type of music or spoken audio, certain text spoken in the audio, certain kinds of video material missing which you KNOW must be in there, certain kinds of material being present while it seems not completely right or even absurd.
Like... well, the current refugee agenda, take that as a good example.
The takling is always "oh, all these poor people! help them! NOW!". Video material of people on overloaded boats, wandering hordes of people, women and children in between, especially pretty often only SMALL children (!), no 12-year-olds or so.
And always you hear they paid thousands of Dollars to be smuggled over to Europe.
...Find the first disproportion in this.
Ever since geography and social studies classes, everyone in the devloped world heard people in Africa need to live on 1 Dollar or 2 (converted).
So, how do these people get thousands of Dollars together to ship whole families over the seas and borders?
If I have subsist on a Dollar or two, how many centuries would I have to save money for being able to afford this? The 1 Dollar, by the way, also is my budget every day. Can't save him whole 'cause I also need to eat! So the goal even takes longer to achieve. How does that all that crap work?
And just don't say I only get this into the register by selling house and ground - how many houses would I have to own if ONE person already takes up 10000 Dollars from the Middle of Africa to over the Mediterranean? Where the hell does all that money come from if all these people supposedly need to exist from one or two Dollars a day?
That's like... when I make 10 bucks a day through begging, I dream and save up for a 3-months-long cruise. Shit that I'm so unprobable to reach, it's not even funny...

What those reports do is calculating with a general wealth of even these people that actually is inherent to people living in the first world. Like, it's your neighbor who needs to flee over the seas and hills. He could maybe afford that 'cause he makes that much money that he's even able to ever touch these sums in a foreseeable amount of time.
But how should this be the case with people alledgely coming from countries that have a payment and costs niveau way under that of the first world?
Unless it's the elite class from these countries fleeing. Those have their riches to possibly gather a few thousand Dollars on a pile without needing to save up money for at least 200 years and stopping eating.

So... in the end... Some things of the information given MUST be wrong, otherwise this issue wouldn't work. Or, information being important to understand all of this is being kept under the table.
The emotional content of these reports is only true at first sight, if you don't want to go further than only feeling emotions.

And this is how all the lies are built.