Erinnerung

[matrixmann]

Originally posted by matrixmann at Erinnerung

2022: Russia starts an endeavor that Western sources prophesied about for months and which some sympathizers of it say it was inevitable for 8 years already - the Russian Federation invades the former Eastern territories of Ukraine (since 2014: the self-proclaimed independent peoples’ republics of Donezk and Luhansk), officially calling it a “special military operation” in order to stop the ongoing bloodshed against ethnic Russians that takes place on these territories since shortly after a coup d'état in Kiev known as “Euromaidan”.


The situation is still ongoing with no end of the hostilities in sight - and due to the entanglement of several European countries and the United States of America in this issue (making it a matter of larger extent than just a regional conflict between neighboring countries), on both sides, everyone has to watch their mouth what to say and write and how about the conflict in public.

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[Нестор Махно (from livejournal.com)]

Also, surprised whith how much people in both compradorias don't want to kill each other - two years of war and it's still a very local conflict, nothing in common with industrial WWII warfare.

It would be great if the war would end by both sides soldiers' revolution. And I think there is still chance for this - we all seen Prigozhin's mercenaries march on Moscow. Funny, I was in traffic jam near bridge over Oka river, some 30 km from "wagners'" troops - and that was last defence line before Moscow :) I know, that "wagners" are far-right, if you want to ask.
Maybe we will see a frontline riot on Ukraine side - forceful mobilisation flows a lot of non-Nazi into Ukrainian forces. Maybe they could find their balls and turn their AKs against govt...

[matrixmann]

That the West didn't get any troops in fully officially is simply very dependent on the fact that the times of plenty are over for it. ALL countries of it.
Going to a full-fledged war with a major power over such a comparatively "small" strip on the map, with it hanging in the air if they could win it - the intelligent people who have any say still in the Western countries seem to know that it would mark their own end - on the political world stage and otherwise. Regardless of if a nuclear missle gets send on its way to them or not.
Because the West lacks the resources - personnel as well as guns, ammunition, vehicles, weapon systems and so on - to lead a war with a half-way equal enemy.

The only wars the West was able to win during the last 30 (or so) years were such where either they could establish air superiority (e. g. Yugoslavia, Libya) or where they made war with a country or its leader which was already quite worn down and didn't have many resources anymore to fight back (e. g. Afghanistan, Iraq).
This time, both things aren't possible and haven't been possible to achieve, and the party that is worn down with not many resources on their hands anymore is the country the West supports. - "Favorable" looks completely different...

If thinking it through - yes, it would be the best option if the war was solved by people who had been involved in it (not from their own will) and who are both fed up with it and with the Kasper in Kiev.
Because then Ukraine would get a chance to become something which its own citizens could want (and not what the most influential power that is active in the area would like to see there), and on the other hand - if not a riot coming from the inside, Zelensky will still be in power 10 years in the future. This idiot doesn't give up his position, not voluntarily.
BUT, politically, he's stupid. Technically, he's just an artist without employment. He has no idea about the manners in international politics, no idea about alliances (and which countries he better shouldn't form an alliance with; where "if you and I have the same enemy, let's be friends" doesn't apply) - people who are more experienced in that could knock out his doing even behind his back.
The ony trouble with that seemingly currently is: The idiot has installed a lot of security mechanisms, by which traitors and people who would have their own plans about a solution to the war are seemingly quickly found out (or Zelensky's "friends" help him with discovering these) and arrested.
It's not that easy to get something so hidden from him or the lackeys that work for him that it reaches fruition and he won't be able do anything against it anymore.

If thinking about a "solution" or even "peace", he's the greatest obstacle - at least the greatest obstacle in Ukraine itself (not counting the outside players which are involved in the issue too).