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matrixmann ([personal profile] matrixmann) wrote2016-10-28 10:15 am

Rehab and behavioral change

Let me tell you the core of rehabilitating and getting people to behave differently:
"People, no matter which background you come from, what lies in your past - we now start to behave like normal adults, we respect the each other, we don't harm each other's crazes, unless they start to touch the life of another which didn't ask for it, and we just fucking start to be a society which about everyone of us would desire to live in".
Because, just tell: How much did it previously use to have all kinds of regards for somebody's situation and let him get away with everything on the background of this? How much made it in bargain to do only years-long psychotherapy with everyone, even with those who lack the realization that they need some?
It doesn't change anything at all if it doesn't come with a radical change in what the surroundings of a person are. Most people try to practice what they have learned in psychotherapy, but they remain caught up in the traces of their old lives and their old brain structures. They try over and over again until they succeed for as much as they must, or they give up and surrender to it.
In the past, sometimes it already has proved effective to just give people a strict daily schedule and putting them under surveillance to follow it. If they still thought to act like a slacker, they faced even some more consequences in this frame.
The basic concept of this is easily and exaggeratedly expressed as "change through work" in the words of past days, today one could rather reduce it down to "just giving somebody structure in his daily life" and that's just what it should be. No draconian acts of punishment or exploitation.
For people on the whole, be it criminal or not, you can apply similar thing: Put them into a frame of a structure what their life and their thinking should be like, and it decides over what they act like. As community rules matter more for human behavior, because humans are an animal species that lives in groups, than the individual belief system for most people.
So, be it teaching criminals a better way or wanting to shape a different society: You need to give an outside push into a direction, otherwise behavior structures that already developed dig themselves deeper and deeper into human brain and group culture and worsen in their extent.
In order to achieve a change in behavior, you need to add a CUT to the psychotherapy - to stop with the practice of the old habits. To start something new, to start a corrected version of what had been collectively done wrong before. And this needs to be done regardless of somebody's backgrounds or his ethnic or his spiritual origins. All of society need to be integrated into this, even if it must come by force.
If you lock certain groups of that "new path", you leave yourself vulnerable to practices that had been done before - that it's a society of only a part of all humans and therefore some become able / are forced to generate their own system again besides that of the general society -, as well as that it doesn't drag all people with it, instead remains a closed sect. Which does not help correcting the problem to begin with.
Besides: A new path for all automatically means a path where everyone can grow together with each other.

[identity profile] mandarinsun.livejournal.com 2016-10-29 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
People need to be thinking about working and saving money more though. I see a lot of people that are very poor talking about going out for Peruvian food, drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes, worrying about their pets, etc... I agree with the conservatives about most people. I just disagree with a lot things conservatives talk about when they are just with each other. Also, conservatives think no government is helpful, but bosses always will push exploitation as far as they are allowed to.

People with little money that aren't concerned about working though make me pretty ill. It's dishonest. They are saying that whoever ends up paying for them later deserves to pay the bills for them. Not doing anything is a choice.

[identity profile] mandarinsun.livejournal.com 2016-10-29 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, Mexican ladies around here have tons of children even though they can't afford the ones they already have too. Poor people always gossiping about romance is pretty disgusting too.

[identity profile] onb2017.livejournal.com 2016-10-29 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I have to say again about being defining consciousness. This is fundamental idea of materialism as a philosophy otherwise no mater how hard you argue you end up in idealism as a philosophy and idealistic philosophers will support you. Very few individuals can rise above the environment but not the society as a whole. So to expect that everyone will change without changing the being, t.e the system is not very productive. It never happened in history. Those few who can rise above need to lead other people to change the system, then people's consciousness will change as the being has changed. I know you may argue but this is in many volumes of colossal research that has been proven by time and history There is no practical way to make people behave the way we want them behave anyways. But please let's not fight again if you disagree. Consider it just my opinion.