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matrixmann ([personal profile] matrixmann) wrote2016-02-17 08:53 pm

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It't just a shame, if you have to turn your back on your asserted political direction, or your asserted subculture, just because those people that are in it are so stubborn, narrow-minded and willing to perceive anything that makes you, in their eyes, be no-one that belongs to their roundel.

[identity profile] mandarinsun.livejournal.com 2016-02-19 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the danger that comes with being an outsider though is that it is probably likely that a person that is an outsider is often criticizing people that he/she considers insiders to keep their outsider status. So, the true might be to be outside, but talk to other people without automatically alienating or hating them.

I would be a lot that there are tons of people that feel like they are in the out group and then just whatever happens they perceive it as further proof they are in the out group. In fact, people that become psychotic see slights in everything that happens and often start becoming delusional about being persecuted by the groups that they do not belong too. Often, they really are being persecuted, to an extent, which makes it very complicated.

I'm just trying to say that, especially with millenials and igeneration types that I see here, I would bet that if I went up to some of them and made the argument that they should be less like their peers and more authentic to what they feel intuitively, they'd agree with me. So, what does that say about their group?

It's just psychologically healthier to not believe that you are extremely alienated. A lot of people see the same problems with society that you see. People just have a lot at stake in their status with their girlfriend/boyfriend, wife/husband, job/profession, etc... They can't just go around being contrary to what is going on.

It's been my experience working with the 20 somethings at the call center that when I say something that makes fun of something stupid that people do to fit in, they laugh pretty hard. It's not like they have a lot of rational reasons for what they are doing. If you have a rational point, the more intelligent ones will understand it. The less intelligent ones probably will just go along with you because you are being bold and a leader and they are mostly all followers.