Somebody once told me, the Lutheran church had already held the third program to evangelize in the East after the turnaround. The third! Why having a third when one already would have been successful, right? People move away from the organized forms of faith in general, because of the lots of shit and pedophile and violence scandals that come out about instutions that were maintained by the church, but also because it doesn't match their own life situations anymore. See the doctrines that circle around homosexuality... You can believe in a God, but Christian church can tell you for being like this "no, you're not wanted here". I think the Lutherans aren't that dogmatic about that topic as the Catholic part of the church, but even for the Lutherans, I think, this is a matter of who you got as a pastor.
For the younger generation, I think, it becomes a little complicated, as these, first, believe in every shit they're told by others, second, identity is something that everyone searches for in anything these days (church may take this position too), and, third, through this whole Pegida crap, which tries to hammer on that button of "Christian Western culture", which they never come to define what it shall mean concretely, this may also become a topic for a few again, even though before they had nothing to do with church and kicked their own culture with their feet before enjoying their purely Americanized life with frozen pizza, pasta and processed foods.
Apart from that, it sometimes depends on the areas where people come from in the East, which professions they maybe once had (Finding a Christ among former sailors isn't that hard, is it?), and which experiences they made themselves with the church. People who still have seen the post-war years or have "suffered" or "received" a few things about church through their parents, those usually also aren't big friends of them because church let you feel here if you were just a tolerated piece of nothing that only came to church to not end in a concentration camp. People who are still alive who witnessed that time as adults or as kids or who are kids of people like this, be sure the topic of "church" had been finished for them forever. And parents who made that experience, don't think they ever let their kids be brainwashed again by that hypocritical church who was ready to send them to death in Reich times.
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Date: 2 September 2017 04:16 pm (UTC)The third! Why having a third when one already would have been successful, right?
People move away from the organized forms of faith in general, because of the lots of shit and pedophile and violence scandals that come out about instutions that were maintained by the church, but also because it doesn't match their own life situations anymore. See the doctrines that circle around homosexuality... You can believe in a God, but Christian church can tell you for being like this "no, you're not wanted here".
I think the Lutherans aren't that dogmatic about that topic as the Catholic part of the church, but even for the Lutherans, I think, this is a matter of who you got as a pastor.
For the younger generation, I think, it becomes a little complicated, as these, first, believe in every shit they're told by others, second, identity is something that everyone searches for in anything these days (church may take this position too), and, third, through this whole Pegida crap, which tries to hammer on that button of "Christian Western culture", which they never come to define what it shall mean concretely, this may also become a topic for a few again, even though before they had nothing to do with church and kicked their own culture with their feet before enjoying their purely Americanized life with frozen pizza, pasta and processed foods.
Apart from that, it sometimes depends on the areas where people come from in the East, which professions they maybe once had (Finding a Christ among former sailors isn't that hard, is it?), and which experiences they made themselves with the church.
People who still have seen the post-war years or have "suffered" or "received" a few things about church through their parents, those usually also aren't big friends of them because church let you feel here if you were just a tolerated piece of nothing that only came to church to not end in a concentration camp.
People who are still alive who witnessed that time as adults or as kids or who are kids of people like this, be sure the topic of "church" had been finished for them forever. And parents who made that experience, don't think they ever let their kids be brainwashed again by that hypocritical church who was ready to send them to death in Reich times.