Well, that's why I don't want to sugarcoat people who are from the Eastern half of the world. I know better to remember I've also seen hostility from them online; stupidity and bad social behavior exists everywhere in the world.
What I only find very specifically different between both is: Westerners are so much occupied by their own culture and the viewpoints it habors towards things. It's literally impossible to make them understand "hey, wait! That's this way IN YOUR SPHERE!". Probabilities are like zero to get it into their heads "other places in the world function according to different rules, and that doesn't make them automatically less virtuous or lets the world go down in them!". I think, as a Russian yourself, you must know what I mean, right?
They constantly judge everything with the socialization they have experienced in Western culture, without ever stumbling upon the idea themselves to take a step back and look at things from a more distant point of view. Saying, they are like unable to think out of the box - unable to think in different patterns than they learned from their own culture. Only their culture has "freedom", is "fair" and what not, all others are like the opposite of that.
I don't know what to call this... "Uneducated about the world" seems like too harmless to me. "Stupid" or "childish" or "naive" seems the same way too. It's like... a certain arrogance. Uneducated about the world, unable to image other places can function differently than theirs, and then they're so arrogant to take it for granted that the whole world must be like the microcosm they know, otherwise this place is shit and must be changed (into practicing their customs!).
I think two good examples for this are LGBT rights and religious freedom. Personally, I don't want a society where everybody can freely rub me his ego in the face and I don't want to rub my ego into other peoples' faces. I don't want to know about who they pray to, bow down to or who they bang. For me, it's getting molested, when that happens. And I think there's much more important stuff in this world than just making a fuzz about the own ego throughout the freaking day. Only a couple of things I want: If I do something in a different way than the average, nobody can throw me into jail for it, nobody can beat me up for it, nobody can lawfully forbid me to live what I think I need to live. And, when I go about speaking about it like all other people about their lives, that nobody can order me lawfully to shut my mouth because some freaking group of this society things it's sinful or even "dangerous". That's all. Acceptance and safety. For that, I don't need gay prides where people dress like in Cologne carnival and drag queens. For that, I don't need a culture that makes a fuzz about it every time someone confesses he's gay.
And for that, I also don't need a culture that excuses every another dubious religion's customs, even if they hack hands off or rape children and sell that as "common practice" in their religion. Neither do I need people insisting on their Gods all the time and drawing them as reasons why they don't need to do this or that, just like another person without a faith.
The more people publicly are able to feed and present their egos aggressively, the worse the social behavior of the whole community gets - because everyone then lives like "you've go to eat my shit without complaining!". Everyone becomes an asshole then because he can. Such general custom I can definitely do without!
But I see "culture celebrating ego" and "being different from the rest" are two different things. Last thing can definitely exist in a society, and be accepted, but without all the loud mumbo jumbo.
For purely Western-raised people, this is like something totally impossible to differentiate. If you don't support the ego culture too, then you're hostile to minority rights and religion, you don't let people live as they want...
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Date: 18 July 2018 12:33 am (UTC)What I only find very specifically different between both is: Westerners are so much occupied by their own culture and the viewpoints it habors towards things. It's literally impossible to make them understand "hey, wait! That's this way IN YOUR SPHERE!".
Probabilities are like zero to get it into their heads "other places in the world function according to different rules, and that doesn't make them automatically less virtuous or lets the world go down in them!".
I think, as a Russian yourself, you must know what I mean, right?
They constantly judge everything with the socialization they have experienced in Western culture, without ever stumbling upon the idea themselves to take a step back and look at things from a more distant point of view.
Saying, they are like unable to think out of the box - unable to think in different patterns than they learned from their own culture.
Only their culture has "freedom", is "fair" and what not, all others are like the opposite of that.
I don't know what to call this... "Uneducated about the world" seems like too harmless to me. "Stupid" or "childish" or "naive" seems the same way too.
It's like... a certain arrogance.
Uneducated about the world, unable to image other places can function differently than theirs, and then they're so arrogant to take it for granted that the whole world must be like the microcosm they know, otherwise this place is shit and must be changed (into practicing their customs!).
I think two good examples for this are LGBT rights and religious freedom.
Personally, I don't want a society where everybody can freely rub me his ego in the face and I don't want to rub my ego into other peoples' faces. I don't want to know about who they pray to, bow down to or who they bang. For me, it's getting molested, when that happens. And I think there's much more important stuff in this world than just making a fuzz about the own ego throughout the freaking day.
Only a couple of things I want: If I do something in a different way than the average, nobody can throw me into jail for it, nobody can beat me up for it, nobody can lawfully forbid me to live what I think I need to live. And, when I go about speaking about it like all other people about their lives, that nobody can order me lawfully to shut my mouth because some freaking group of this society things it's sinful or even "dangerous".
That's all. Acceptance and safety.
For that, I don't need gay prides where people dress like in Cologne carnival and drag queens. For that, I don't need a culture that makes a fuzz about it every time someone confesses he's gay.
And for that, I also don't need a culture that excuses every another dubious religion's customs, even if they hack hands off or rape children and sell that as "common practice" in their religion.
Neither do I need people insisting on their Gods all the time and drawing them as reasons why they don't need to do this or that, just like another person without a faith.
The more people publicly are able to feed and present their egos aggressively, the worse the social behavior of the whole community gets - because everyone then lives like "you've go to eat my shit without complaining!". Everyone becomes an asshole then because he can.
Such general custom I can definitely do without!
But I see "culture celebrating ego" and "being different from the rest" are two different things. Last thing can definitely exist in a society, and be accepted, but without all the loud mumbo jumbo.
For purely Western-raised people, this is like something totally impossible to differentiate. If you don't support the ego culture too, then you're hostile to minority rights and religion, you don't let people live as they want...
NONSENSE, I say!