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Individualism, lived with a certain seriousness, turns out to be a burden.
Sitting on a fence, as they call it, you're neither fish nor fowl, finding somebody to talk only sometimes develops into a real obstacle that is not as easy to solve.
Most humans have their asserted groups they feel loyalty to, and they follow them, more or less, just by the book. The only ones you get corrupted to adapt some to their own from another one's set of articles of faith are those ones which reach for money and richness. As money doesn't have opinions on things of life, it itself is the opinion to a set of things.
But assumed, you don't move inside a category where money can help you, it is like being a Martian trapped on planet earth and it is full of simple morons. You are from a space that they fail, most of the time, to get and to understand life is much more dynamic than they like to imagine.
What contradiction is there to be a gun friend, but on the other hand talk like a leftist?
What contradiction is there between finding giving a lot of freedom, but on the other hand putting the rich into chains, so they not fuck up the public order by unrestrained behavior?
What doesn't make it suit together to be not supportive unconditionally towards every influx from other countries, but not carrying a Nazi flag with you or go to Bible study?
What, especially as a German, makes you be "Michel" if you don't act the blind-trusting member of the 1968 generation?
It seems like people have hardened fronts and narrowed minds in their heads and through this lens they judge everything critically that they get to see. They don't look for anything being different from what they know, they look for pressing everything into a given form and that is the way they understand everything as what they meet. - Be it those explicitly not calling for something other than their own or be it those which claim they want to hear differing opinions.
In between you find yourself, if you don't agree with neither one of these groups, and think like it's time to get insane - because you cannot bear it to be confronted with this stubbornness. Let alone the reactions if you start to pour out what you really think and they don't know where to put you and regard this as an aggressive act.

Being on a Fence

Date: 31 January 2016 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-child.livejournal.com
Do you think the natural order of aspirations and interpretations as indoctrinated into being by the standing, well-practiced and widely recognized groups that exist in this world creates a natural inclination for systematic hostility towards anyone who doesn't fit into either of the bi-partisan groups that stand in power?

Let me rephrase that in less contusion-embraced formatting.

I take out of your writing that you recognize the world as having systems that stand as certain perspectives are in power, and those perspectives must be adhered to so that someone can find out where they belong in the world. These standing powers will tell you what you're supposed to believe and what you're supposed to do. These powers are ordinanced with qualifications for appealing to them, you have to fall into their definition of what their followers are like in order to belong to their group. Now there is this anomaly wherein people are sitting outside of the zones where they would be seen as qualifying to belong to these existing powers which rule and dominate the systems that build the world we live in. These people, not having a place, are resented and feared for their position of being unique and belonging in sections, identities and designs that don't abide by the rules of the powers that be. They don't match up with the world that focuses on these powers; they are outcasts, and that is terrifying to the world that sees only for the opinions as held by these existing powers that are so widely worshiped as being where people belong. Living with individualism all the way through and belonging somewhere other than in the pre-crafted images that the systems of power have built for us is a curse. The world says to be your own individual, but in practice violates the concept and fears the result.

Am I reading you correctly?

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Date: 31 January 2016 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandarinsun.livejournal.com
It's weird to me that people get along as well as they do. There must be a lot of ass kissing going on all the time for people to not disagree more loudly with each other all the time. However, the ass kissing must be sublimated in each person's psyche so that it does not feel like ass kissing to them. It must feel like it is that person's best interest to say things that amount to ass kissing and be alright with it.

Most people have the opposite point of view though and think that people SHOULD get along better than they now do. To an extent this even makes sense because it seems like in previous centuries people did get along better with each other: I have seen studies where people trusted each other more in past generations. Also, people were expected to be a lot more polite to each other and formal in say the 19th century or earlier.

Something that blew my mind was that I was reading a history of the small rule changes and customs in playing baseball and it said that in the 1890s, when baseball was pretty new in America, it was considered very bad form, bad manners, to show that you wanted your team to win and both sides were expected to never show that having your team win the game was important at all. Still, everyone that played ended up wanting to win extremely badly and eventually it just became so natural that you had to want to win at whatever the cost that if someone from the 1880s tried to play baseball much later on they wouldn't even be allowed to try out for a team because they wouldn't have been seen to have the proper level of aggression or determination to win.

I think most of this is due to globalization though and since 1890, Western Civilization has went from very few people having freedom to nearly everyone expecting it. And whose to say who shouldn't have freedom?

This makes me think about what if all the people in Muslim countries suddenly gave up their religion and wanted freedom like everyone else: could world civilization even accommodate it? In a way, it is almost fortunate that all those billions of people in Muslim countries don't want freedom.

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Date: 31 January 2016 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandarinsun.livejournal.com
The weirdest thing about it to me though is that way more than 90% of people go around being surprised that people can't get along better. It seems like people should even get along worse.

As far as what I think a solution might be: it would benefit everyone to study Buddhism and want jobs and experiences that help others. In a way though, young people think they want to help others, but they want to help others while making millions and having high status jobs.

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