*Laughs* You know what I just thought of? "People smuggler always tell you that you get everything for free - they want customers, respectively: their money", but I really don't want to make accusations towards anyone. But even though, it gives me thinking how that is with the refugees that come here that paid thousands of Dollars just to get to Western Europe. If in half-way still decent countries these myths about Germany circulate - I also once encountered that myth with free education with somebody from the other side of the big lake -, should I be to believe that it's so much different in countries were people long for that kind of wealth that Western Europe called its own for such a long time? I wouldn't guess it's any different. But to these people, the impact of that myth is much stronger: It's like their last resort to look up to, like their salvation. When you take this myth away from them it's like taking all hope away from them that life could get any better than they know it. And that is a reason for why they don't believe it until they sit in an overcrowded refugee shelter where food is even a little scarce, where they get told they first need a permit to work to be able to get hired officially at all, where they face long queues and waiting time in bureaucracy matters, and where they get rid of their savings because the state says "you pay for your board and lodging first before anything like everyone else of our own poor people that gathered financial richnesses". That also would explain everything in willfully failed adaption to the customs and regulations over here and claims like prayer rooms even in ground schools. - They're coming here to experience salvation, they don't want to give up the way they lived before, they want to continue living like that only in Central Europe - with that wealth ensuring them a good life.
I posted some comments there but they are not showing. I think I will post a few really stupid comment on my blog. I will tell you what they are about: one about that someones' friends' daughter went there and college education was all free and he just said I know it and it is the fact that education is free. And everyone is supposed to believe because he said it. And second idiot said that Marx said that capitalism will just turn into socialism and in Germany you already have socialism. I bet you didn't suspect that. And third is that people are saying I know better because I lived in Bavaria for 17 years.
I am not quite sure yet if I am going to post them but I might because it is so funny how stupid these people are.
"A distant relative of mine said..." - oh yeah, doesn't sound like I could know how serious that is...
Germany and socialism - well, yeah, depends on which German state you talk about at all... There once were two Germanys. Forgot?
Living for 17 years in Bavaria - Bavaria is even one of the strictest in education, your child doesn't even get from elementary school to Gymnasium if you only want it, it needs to have the grades for it. So I don't know which part of Bavaria that should be - maybe an enclave of another state or a territory having declared their own state? Or, another thought: Sudeten German territory and actually you're in Czechia?
I think I said my opinion. It sounds to me like somebody wants to catch rats, and who knows what reason for. And from the position of each Eastern European, it might look like education is free here, but for the people which were born here and they weren't born to a rich family, the circumstances have become scarce. Say, here a Pole also doesn't need to have rich parents to go studying, but even though, it's not like you don't need no money while studying - and it's not like you only have comfortable circumstances to study. The opposite is the case: It's already natural selection because you sometimes have like a thousand people for a course of 90-100 people. There's always someone waiting in your back who wants the seat also.
You know, I though you were way too serious but that thing you said about Bavaria is really funny. Well out of 12 000 maybe at least half are not trolls or morons so you did your job.
Well, sometimes you even need to put the question what kind of "Bavaria" one is talking about... Them over here with their leagues of displaced people they still keep alive (the German displaced people from after WWII!) - never trust them if they don't got anything up in their sleeves.
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Date: 1 August 2016 07:11 am (UTC)But even though, it gives me thinking how that is with the refugees that come here that paid thousands of Dollars just to get to Western Europe. If in half-way still decent countries these myths about Germany circulate - I also once encountered that myth with free education with somebody from the other side of the big lake -, should I be to believe that it's so much different in countries were people long for that kind of wealth that Western Europe called its own for such a long time? I wouldn't guess it's any different.
But to these people, the impact of that myth is much stronger: It's like their last resort to look up to, like their salvation. When you take this myth away from them it's like taking all hope away from them that life could get any better than they know it.
And that is a reason for why they don't believe it until they sit in an overcrowded refugee shelter where food is even a little scarce, where they get told they first need a permit to work to be able to get hired officially at all, where they face long queues and waiting time in bureaucracy matters, and where they get rid of their savings because the state says "you pay for your board and lodging first before anything like everyone else of our own poor people that gathered financial richnesses".
That also would explain everything in willfully failed adaption to the customs and regulations over here and claims like prayer rooms even in ground schools. - They're coming here to experience salvation, they don't want to give up the way they lived before, they want to continue living like that only in Central Europe - with that wealth ensuring them a good life.
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Date: 1 August 2016 04:17 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2 August 2016 03:11 am (UTC)I am not quite sure yet if I am going to post them but I might because it is so funny how stupid these people are.
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Date: 2 August 2016 06:24 am (UTC)Germany and socialism - well, yeah, depends on which German state you talk about at all... There once were two Germanys. Forgot?
Living for 17 years in Bavaria - Bavaria is even one of the strictest in education, your child doesn't even get from elementary school to Gymnasium if you only want it, it needs to have the grades for it. So I don't know which part of Bavaria that should be - maybe an enclave of another state or a territory having declared their own state? Or, another thought: Sudeten German territory and actually you're in Czechia?
I think I said my opinion. It sounds to me like somebody wants to catch rats, and who knows what reason for.
And from the position of each Eastern European, it might look like education is free here, but for the people which were born here and they weren't born to a rich family, the circumstances have become scarce.
Say, here a Pole also doesn't need to have rich parents to go studying, but even though, it's not like you don't need no money while studying - and it's not like you only have comfortable circumstances to study. The opposite is the case: It's already natural selection because you sometimes have like a thousand people for a course of 90-100 people. There's always someone waiting in your back who wants the seat also.
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