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A note for a suggestion how to solve the misery when at least one parent isn't the biological ancestor (be it because it is an adoption inside a homosexual couple or an adoption by a couple which is unable to have kids together with each other):
Have one field in the birth application for the biological mother, have one field for the biological father - for the alimony issues, if both are available or can be detected, and for the sake of the child if he wants to meet the one of both he doesn't know (as often guaranteed by rights the state grants to a person to get to know his descent).
Then have another field in the application and in the birth certificate which states "otherwisely responsible care person in the juristic understanding of the rights and duties of a parent". And there you can enter whoever you want that gives his permission. A partner who's not a biological ancestor of that person, a person, like a close friend of the family, which is going to be responsible for the human mentioned on the paper like a parent in case one or both parents can't fully overtake this task or a concrete relative which is not in the direct bloodline grandparents-parents-child.
Additionally, this field should be extendable to more than one person - for the sake of couples being friend and people of trust to the biological parents.
And: It should be changeable anytime when both parties agree or when a court decision orders it.
Have one field in the birth application for the biological mother, have one field for the biological father - for the alimony issues, if both are available or can be detected, and for the sake of the child if he wants to meet the one of both he doesn't know (as often guaranteed by rights the state grants to a person to get to know his descent).
Then have another field in the application and in the birth certificate which states "otherwisely responsible care person in the juristic understanding of the rights and duties of a parent". And there you can enter whoever you want that gives his permission. A partner who's not a biological ancestor of that person, a person, like a close friend of the family, which is going to be responsible for the human mentioned on the paper like a parent in case one or both parents can't fully overtake this task or a concrete relative which is not in the direct bloodline grandparents-parents-child.
Additionally, this field should be extendable to more than one person - for the sake of couples being friend and people of trust to the biological parents.
And: It should be changeable anytime when both parties agree or when a court decision orders it.
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Date: 2 August 2016 06:55 am (UTC)See, there's a lot of fighting round the world and I think even here about whether homosexual couples should be permitted to adopt children.
Well, if the thing gets put onto paper like a male and a male or a female and a female get entered as regular fathers or mothers, like biological father and mother, I'd be against that because factually this cannot be.
But, I rather tend to widen the question: You already also have heterosexual couples which have their problems getting a child together, and without the help of science it wouldn't be possible, some even can't get a child together because one is really completely incapable, so they need another partner - a third one.
This becomes about the same situation as with homosexual couples (at least if the child should be related to one of both).
I think I get my problems with that because I somehow see raising a child is not only this 2-people-thing. In earlier times there have been far more people involved. As it wasn't about aliments, there were more peolple involved from the kin.
So - why don't transfer that onto that situation if two people can't get a child solely on their own, if they need a third person?
That way even not only the biological parents can claim their rights - that couple of people which has only come together for fertilizing -, but also the third one which has no relation by blood to them, but who raised the child too.
And even that you can extend: It needn't be a person who's coupled with any one of both biological parents. It can also be a close friend you trust which you'd want that he keeps the child in case something happens. Some friends are also like a parent in some environment or circumstances.
Over here it isn't so, if the parents cannot take care of their children, you cannot automatically offer yourself for taking them. A relative of them can do so, but no person which has no bloodline relation to them. Law treats everyone like a stranger then.
And my thought in that is: Maybe this system with only 2 parents being responsible for a child doesn't reflect today's life circumstances. It's not suitable for it anymore.
Wouldn't be the first time when German bureaucracy was behind.
Saying, I don't know exactly how these things are at the registry office, but as far as I know, things still are like that in some kind of Middle-Ages-way.
German bureaucracy puts an incredible emphasis onto biological relationship (old Nazi habits in the system?), and besides that you literally have no possibilities to legally put your circumstances which are different than their system onto paper that it's valid if the case of need applies.
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Date: 2 August 2016 04:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 3 August 2016 12:11 am (UTC)