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matrixmann"Freedom" and "free travel" are just gifts to the young generation which don't know a world before this was visibly in effect, but they're just breadcrumbs to manipulate them, to get them in favor of that current system that reigns, to make them think if that is gone, they live in a dictatorship. Not even thirst, nor hunger, nor freezing, nor even finding any kind of clothes to keep you warm and protect you from bad weather should make them think they live in bad conditions, it should be that they can breathe no unfiltered air and that they can't spend money on whatever they want which they borrowed from banks anyway.
That way the system wants hold its position and even make sure that, if these young, spoiled and manipulated people that run aroud with twisted priorities in their heads don't get their will, they will become aggressive to take their will from anyone they perceive as standing in their way to get it. And that makes them vulnerable to extremist ideas to even kill people if only they get from the act what they wanted in the first place.
That way the system wants hold its position and even make sure that, if these young, spoiled and manipulated people that run aroud with twisted priorities in their heads don't get their will, they will become aggressive to take their will from anyone they perceive as standing in their way to get it. And that makes them vulnerable to extremist ideas to even kill people if only they get from the act what they wanted in the first place.
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Date: 11 September 2016 01:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 11 September 2016 03:30 pm (UTC)That's what an Easterner would say. (And this can be understood as a compliment.)
Say, what I'm trying to make clear is when writing such texts: One chain-link insets to another. It's not like a lot of activists try to paint the world "oh, somebody announces he wants to violate our rights, oh, we're losing our freedoms!"
You know, the most important freedoms are already lost and if you don't fight to get them back, they'll always remain taken away from you. I don't know if they really believe in this or are that naive that somebody's gonna tell them if he's planning to disrespect their human and civil rights.
If I want to disregard somebody's rights, I'm not gonna go verbal, I'm gonna go kick them with power in sensitive body parts and put the stomping boot on their face, telling them they're worth nothing.
And that's how it's going to be still in a hundred years. Why do people think their rights get taken away only so abstractly?
And anything that equals that in a passive-aggressive way is the same 'cause it has the same goal, it only took a civilized-looking way. Beneath its surface it's still the barbaric uncivilized way to put a boot in someone's face and get away with murder.
And those kinds of violating your rights, you only recognize them through psychological education while you're in the situation. The only warning you can have from it is experience, if you've gone through it a few times already yourself.
...You know, just because a lot of young people ride that train, it appears to me like you can truly be pessimistic about the future. Because they think so naively, because they have so much of a lack of education, also in the department of "life experiences". If you got life experiences, you just become able to tell wolves from sheep. And life experience is: Things do not always work perfectly your way. You gonna be disappointed once in a while.
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Date: 11 September 2016 03:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 11 September 2016 06:40 pm (UTC)They rather follow the commands some people in some steel ivory tower develop, expressed through media, entertainment, movies, games - thought up stories. And they fail to cognitively recognize which psychological bubble they're being kept in. - Those who recognize, seem to get broken by that knowledge or they draw totally the wrong consequences from it - extremism or still too much do-goodery they wanna fight it with -, or they face their own powerlessness, they can do nothing against it.
And those media have so much power to twist peoples' heads and talk them into believing so much ideas which are illusions, best possible to achieve when you're born to the rich class.
Say... like people which once believed in it when they were told by the church "after death a better life is gonna wait for you". That stubbornly they believe in that shit of rising from a dish-washer to a millionaire, going to school and ending up in a satisfying job, earning their own money and being able to have a fun life with that money.
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Date: 11 September 2016 06:52 pm (UTC)People who revolve are usually doing it individually and it is not a good way. The only way is uniting effort. You cannot win over propaganda, army, police on your own. You need many people unity. To have that they need to be educated so they are not lead into a trap. So in a way it is a vicious circle. And agree about religion. Better afterlife and stuff. Plus somehow religion for them turned into some magic that makes wishes come true.
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Date: 11 September 2016 09:52 pm (UTC)Sometimes it's even the representatives of big capital coming to politics to make sure their interests get turned into reality.
I know that. But try to think up a single call that speaks to many and they all feel talked to, so they gonna get moving...
This maybe worked still 10 years ago, but these days it's really hard finding a call that unites a lot of masses under one roof.
It's just people... think too much in what differs them from each other and they're missing so much basic education about the system that surrounds them.
See, take an example: Lots of people talk about alternatives to the current capitalistic system, but none of them concretely comes up with a realistic idea how government and economy can work realistically. It's mostly some ideas where you think "you'd need to turn half of mankind's inner mindset around for that first in order to make it work". What is this? That's not an idea you can immediately use when this system has fucked itself up big time, not even is it something you can install and let public life work without everything going helter skelter. Drown in chaos.
It's nothing that you see capable to overcome the chaos years with order again. Additionally, it lacks that important point in strategy "You think that all your enemies outside just sit idly by and watch?".
The only mass of people which maybe has a model of a state working differently, but working effectively that it can establish an order that lasts for decades, for a longer time, is those people which experienced real socialism (Realsozialismus).
But those who got knowledge about how that system of being worked behind the curtain slowly die away more and more by the time. That clock's ticking downwards.
And this subject also is victim of a lot of propaganda which camouflages how it really worked as a state, a society and an economy system.
See... I was witness and a part-taker when the call of one could unite a group of people different in life stories. But in the end, they all were kids and it was under a destructive star. Additionally, people entered that round which had a more radical behavior and worldview. These days, I sometimes don't know if they were honest or if there also were some in between that were sent to scatter this group again. You know, all that purely works through the net, you've gotta be mistrustful... Today one knows that.
Today one also has seen enough other events and stories taking place where, in the end, it came out that all was not like it seems. Or at least, the birds had been tweeting all that from the roofs for long.
Getting to know about such things, it makes you question how much maybe you were on the radar of this state. The state was always involved somewhere in this game as it needed to because there always could come one protagonist around the corner who could state "now I'm gonna go kill people! I got a gun, I got fireworks, let's rock!" each day. Those kids needed to be stopped. It was the task of those of the state who watched and observed.
So... you never know if there was some more that employees of the state were supposed to do.
...You see, I know that effect. I really DO know it.
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Date: 12 September 2016 03:29 pm (UTC)That's why Marx called proletariat to be the leading power because they produce everything and they are exploited. They need to unite first of all, not some young people or white-collar professional or anyone else. The ones who produce goods and they do exist otherwise we wouldn't have the abundance of crap around to buy. So people need to start reading class theory, I know, it might be hard for many but it has clear answers because it is a scientific theory.
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Date: 12 September 2016 05:24 pm (UTC)It was a strong reason why the gathering at all happened - and that's, what I have the impression, is completely missing today, even if you get different kinds of people together which received a half-way ordinary education.
You know... a strong call. A message that speaks to all of them.
Something where people say "I understand." in a mass-wise way, even though they come to think so as individuals, one by one, everyone from his own background.
This is, in general, a time where big calls are missing.
They know flash mobs and other group behavior, but just for fun, to cause unnessecary violence, to drink or to do some other kind of entertainment behavior.
But not "come together, think realistically about the future".
...Maybe I'm talking in riddles what I mean, but I think I come back to it when the time is due.
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Date: 12 September 2016 05:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 12 September 2016 06:33 pm (UTC)Just wait until the end of November.
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Date: 12 September 2016 07:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 12 September 2016 07:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 12 September 2016 03:46 pm (UTC)