Especially opinions from media and such. I saw yesterday a great statement somewhere on reddit: "My dad used to say you are stupid and uninformed if you don't watch news on tv, now I know my dad is stupid and uninformed because he watches news on tv."
Hm, this would seem like only half of the truth. It should rather be "My Dad is stupid because he watches news on TV and blindly believes what they say." - This is something you can also extend to the internet. See such paranoid stuff like the infowars shit and its worshippers. This is no news, this is just - tha category of stuff you wanna tell "please, take the pills your doctor prescribed you because" because you can strongly suspect them to be sick with psychosis. Admittedly, even though, core points they touch sometimes have a little truth with them.
Oh, yes, definitely. I watch news and read stuff on internet but I treat it critically and I won't take their interpretation I would rather find different pieces of information and put them together and then try to understand what the truth behind it.
I take lots of stuff also as interpretations - often enough also very interesting information goes around with this, some things that one didn't know or didn't pay that much attention to. That's why it also often is interesting for me to see interpretations from both spectrums - from the West as well as from the East. 'Cause people from the East often have a very differing status quo of knowledge from your own point of view, from the Western point in general, and they also judge things often very differently than Westerners. I miss this very much in German blogs that call themselves "left".
The great flaw with this time and with its people is mostly they hold some "opinion" to various topics, but you barely can recognize some golden thread in between all this, especially one that seems to follow a trace that runs beyond all possible clichés. You know, people identify themselves as "liberal", "left", "no far right" (but on the other hand they totally behave like they are in every aspect), they call themselves "no conspiracy theorist" (but then on the other hand they believe in all that BRD-GmbH-Reichsbürger-shit or other totally hilarious and stupid shit, comparable to the infowars stuff), and many other kinds of group membership attributes. But, as maybe indicated the things written in brackets, they all behave like total fulfilling clichés of all that groups despite claiming they're not like that. Well, I don't know which impression I cause towards others, at least inside I think I only follow my own policies and I stick to that, no matter what other people say. The only thing that may turn something for me is just if some new facts appear that seem trustworthy.
Another phenomenon you have on the other side of this: People are like a slippery eel. Today somebody tells me to believe in this, tomorrow I believe in that. And what do I believe? All that some super-independent not-paid-by-the-system NGO group tells me. - The typical hipster shit, if you know what I mean.
All some kind of shit that talks a lot, but doesn't offer any profile. No footprint on the tire. Also no readiness to enter the arena with an uncomfortable subject or truth.
The combination of both is what makes this time episode truly totally untakeable. Because it is like one big insult to the intelligent mind. See, it's not like there have been no people telling other people to be "individual", to "embrace being different" and "love themselves for what they are", but all people seem to dance to that pipe to be as equal as the other one is named like. Meaning, it seems like all this talking about being individual and loving it had been in vain. People exist and think in shapes that are like patterns created for them. And if you try to point them at this impression or circumstance, it's like you've been a totally rude asshole. Like "oh, no! Look how much this isn't true!" - and the more they try to prove the opposite, you actually must admit the more you find your impression to be true. Which gets you even more spits, kicks and stones thrown at you.
It is ironic how in the deeply individualistic society the idea of a herd mentality prevails. It is hard to be individual in your thought process, though, easier to consume the information that is supposedly "analyzed" by someone. Only in the interest of the ruling class of course.
You know, the topic isn't very new to my mind. To me it appears like one circles around a few specific topics for a decade already without anything of the circumstances changing that you can find. Like a working animal that you can fool by keeping a piece of food dangling before its eyes and it goes wherever his eyes tell him that piece of food is. It's like... no matter who is in a critical specific age, the mass that just is in it is as stupid as the previous generation. Without a thought, without a mind they don't realize how much they're like chicken in a battery farm. Even though reality already knocks as hard on their cages. That's just also a reason why you start to "feel" somewhat forsaken, lonely and like a solitude soldier in this world. You have the impression like you're surrounded by fools and masses of fools and you can't see the end of them... Like this will be the only thing the world has to offer forever and all days.
I don't know, they might need to face reality and it may change. Or may not. I sometimes get disappointed in humanity but then I see signs that's there is still hope.
You can say, that's the reason why I still have not given up on it yet. I somehow think it can be differently. But, as I said somewhere else, it needs a strong message to mobilize. And that's clearly a factor that's totally missing these days. Perhaps 'caused by that current aimless zeitgeist culture. Maybe it's also a plan of the system to totally prevent this from happening as they know what it could mean for them. - If they let the far right rise up again, those you can control. Far right is capitalism too, they only want their people in important positions. If you let them have this, they'll work in your favor. If anything else with other objectives appears on the screen, there's no guarantee you can make that happen like this too. And that they must know too - otherwise this whole machinery couldn't keep itself up that long. If not the sheep down at the lowest end know how to think themselves, then the king which wants to remain on top must know it. But it's hard to read those strategies and their manifestation in reality - in which appearance they happen - and also it's hard without a deep and big network to work against this to counter it.
Network, explaining to people that nationalistic crap is not their problem, the people who exploit the rest are. Need to work hard to bring the message through.
Yeah, "network" - that's an important factor you need throughout spreading the mental component of change. 'Cause a few single people, a sworn-in community, those can't fight a thousand fronts of false information, manipulation, entertainment kitsch and distraction that is represented by lots and lots over lots of representer and "soldiers". If you got your "army" ready with good links at some of the important hubs, then it's a different story of making your trial for influence something that receives attention by the simple people at all. One may imagine it practically like: E. g. try to break the influence of Facebook. Pretty hard job, isn't it? Even if you tried to do this, it would mean a hell lot of effort. "A hell lot of effort" would equal a good bunch of people, this couldn't be done by one person alone or only a few. Nobody has that superhuman power. That's what I mean.
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Date: 13 November 2016 03:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 13 November 2016 04:29 pm (UTC)It should rather be "My Dad is stupid because he watches news on TV and blindly believes what they say." - This is something you can also extend to the internet. See such paranoid stuff like the infowars shit and its worshippers. This is no news, this is just - tha category of stuff you wanna tell "please, take the pills your doctor prescribed you because" because you can strongly suspect them to be sick with psychosis.
Admittedly, even though, core points they touch sometimes have a little truth with them.
(no subject)
Date: 13 November 2016 05:50 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 13 November 2016 06:09 pm (UTC)That's why it also often is interesting for me to see interpretations from both spectrums - from the West as well as from the East. 'Cause people from the East often have a very differing status quo of knowledge from your own point of view, from the Western point in general, and they also judge things often very differently than Westerners.
I miss this very much in German blogs that call themselves "left".
(no subject)
Date: 13 November 2016 03:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 13 November 2016 04:59 pm (UTC)You know, people identify themselves as "liberal", "left", "no far right" (but on the other hand they totally behave like they are in every aspect), they call themselves "no conspiracy theorist" (but then on the other hand they believe in all that BRD-GmbH-Reichsbürger-shit or other totally hilarious and stupid shit, comparable to the infowars stuff), and many other kinds of group membership attributes. But, as maybe indicated the things written in brackets, they all behave like total fulfilling clichés of all that groups despite claiming they're not like that.
Well, I don't know which impression I cause towards others, at least inside I think I only follow my own policies and I stick to that, no matter what other people say. The only thing that may turn something for me is just if some new facts appear that seem trustworthy.
Another phenomenon you have on the other side of this: People are like a slippery eel. Today somebody tells me to believe in this, tomorrow I believe in that. And what do I believe? All that some super-independent not-paid-by-the-system NGO group tells me. - The typical hipster shit, if you know what I mean.
All some kind of shit that talks a lot, but doesn't offer any profile. No footprint on the tire. Also no readiness to enter the arena with an uncomfortable subject or truth.
The combination of both is what makes this time episode truly totally untakeable. Because it is like one big insult to the intelligent mind.
See, it's not like there have been no people telling other people to be "individual", to "embrace being different" and "love themselves for what they are", but all people seem to dance to that pipe to be as equal as the other one is named like. Meaning, it seems like all this talking about being individual and loving it had been in vain. People exist and think in shapes that are like patterns created for them.
And if you try to point them at this impression or circumstance, it's like you've been a totally rude asshole. Like "oh, no! Look how much this isn't true!" - and the more they try to prove the opposite, you actually must admit the more you find your impression to be true. Which gets you even more spits, kicks and stones thrown at you.
(no subject)
Date: 13 November 2016 05:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 13 November 2016 06:17 pm (UTC)You know, the topic isn't very new to my mind.
To me it appears like one circles around a few specific topics for a decade already without anything of the circumstances changing that you can find. Like a working animal that you can fool by keeping a piece of food dangling before its eyes and it goes wherever his eyes tell him that piece of food is.
It's like... no matter who is in a critical specific age, the mass that just is in it is as stupid as the previous generation. Without a thought, without a mind they don't realize how much they're like chicken in a battery farm. Even though reality already knocks as hard on their cages.
That's just also a reason why you start to "feel" somewhat forsaken, lonely and like a solitude soldier in this world. You have the impression like you're surrounded by fools and masses of fools and you can't see the end of them... Like this will be the only thing the world has to offer forever and all days.
(no subject)
Date: 14 November 2016 12:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 14 November 2016 01:12 pm (UTC)But, as I said somewhere else, it needs a strong message to mobilize. And that's clearly a factor that's totally missing these days. Perhaps 'caused by that current aimless zeitgeist culture.
Maybe it's also a plan of the system to totally prevent this from happening as they know what it could mean for them. - If they let the far right rise up again, those you can control. Far right is capitalism too, they only want their people in important positions. If you let them have this, they'll work in your favor.
If anything else with other objectives appears on the screen, there's no guarantee you can make that happen like this too.
And that they must know too - otherwise this whole machinery couldn't keep itself up that long. If not the sheep down at the lowest end know how to think themselves, then the king which wants to remain on top must know it.
But it's hard to read those strategies and their manifestation in reality - in which appearance they happen - and also it's hard without a deep and big network to work against this to counter it.
(no subject)
Date: 15 November 2016 01:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 15 November 2016 03:17 pm (UTC)If you got your "army" ready with good links at some of the important hubs, then it's a different story of making your trial for influence something that receives attention by the simple people at all.
One may imagine it practically like: E. g. try to break the influence of Facebook. Pretty hard job, isn't it? Even if you tried to do this, it would mean a hell lot of effort. "A hell lot of effort" would equal a good bunch of people, this couldn't be done by one person alone or only a few. Nobody has that superhuman power.
That's what I mean.