About depression

[matrixmann]

Man kann deprimiert sein und deswegen alles negativ wahrnehmen,
man kann aber auch von der Realität deprimiert werden.

One can be depressed and therefore perceive everything in the negative way,
but - one can also be depressed by the events that take place in the reality.

Comments

[matrixmann]

You didn't get what I mean...
And for one time I doubt you will. 'Cause often enough I can witness how you're still a hard believer of the motto "Man forges his own destiny.".

One more time: Which use make personal freedoms for you if you already have trouble grabbing them? If your body is the limit of what you can do? For example: You get granted the right to go wherever you want, but what is it worth if your legs don't work? What use is it if you already have trouble getting to the bathroom in your own apartment? Or getting your groceries into the flat to put them in the fridge?
If you already need another person to help you only getting out of your bed?
Where is "forging your own destiny" if already most of your powers need to be spend on only existing - every day?

[mandarinsun.livejournal.com]

Well, if you are severely disabled like that, I guess you can't really do a lot of things others can do.

I do believe that people should be held responsible for their actions and choices. I think I am not a great person, in that I make tons of goals that I don't follow through with and wanted to be a regular teacher but am stuck as a substitute, but I equally feel that I need to be very careful and not turn into a drug addict and potential child abuser.

I'm very sorry if you have all those disabilities that prevent you from doing things by yourself.

It isn't a good analogy though if you are saying that tons of people are just like people that have that level of disability. It really isn't. Most people can do a lot more than they choose to do including me, to my great embarrassment and shame.

[matrixmann]

Responsibility for your own actions and being a bird in a cage are two different things, in my opinion.

Nearly all people do have anything that limits their possibilities, be it caused from the outside (economic, class) or be it something from their own materia they're made of (like sickness, energy levels, breaking points, stress resistence).
Disabilities you can't ignore are just an extreme example to demonstrate how it affects your ability to sustain to that credo of "Everyone forges his own fortune." - but so even are the little disabilities and weaknesses that people have. This is not a world where everyone is born healthy and it's solely his own will that determines how much comes out of his personal resources. That's a lie. A fucking bold-faced lie. And the more you try to keep that up for yourself, believing in the hamster wheel while you already fall victim to the negative effects of your disability / weakness, the more it turns into self-destruction.
So it is to all people you still tell about the fortunes of the hamster wheel and the invalidity of weaknesses on your performance in the hamster wheel. It's fucking destruction.

Responsibility, compared to that, is doing things and be behind them, regardless if they turn out good or bad, and bearing the consequences of your actions.

[mandarinsun.livejournal.com]

I think if you had that level of disability, people more into Buddhism than I am, would say you still could train your mind.

You could train your mind to read and write a lot. I'm thinking of it from the perspective of the disabled person too, not just as someone trying to get the most out of employees or something. A person in that situation would be happier if they trained their mind to read and write as much as possible. They'd enjoy their life more.

I guess I do believe in human action. I don't know about destiny that makes it sound like everyone can achieve anything they want to and I agree that's rubbish. I am trying more to come from how Schopenhauer and Camus would come at the argument. We have a responsibility in our freedom even if the world is absurd and we can't achieve much. Buddhists don't even really care about achievement and just want people to work on practicing more and more, practicing meditation.

When you look at how people break down and go crazy- they abuse and kill others- it is preferable to have some sort of philosophy of being responsible for yourself.