Culture celebration

[matrixmann]

"Fuck your celebrating of the 80s and Neue Deutsche Welle over and over again - as one of the most decadent decades that one has seen recently! One day you gonna do it with this decade too because remembering one of any of the others would make people discover intelligence and education again!"

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[onb2017.livejournal.com]

I am not sure what was in Germany in 80s. But I hate 80s culture. Cheesy and stupid if you ask me.

[matrixmann]

I rather tend to get to know the 80s culture through what you get surrounded with as culture propaganda in mass media about them. West Germany and GDR had different 80s, as far as I can say (in music this also is strongly the case), and I'm rather closer to sources telling you about last thing from personal experience.
So, for me, almost all that remains is that media shit (well, through my own music I sometimes come in contact with 80s House music because of DJs using samples from them in 90s Rave and Trance songs, and that's already a different part of the 80s you will never hear about as "flagship-culture").

And if you compare the content of that shit with the soulless stuff produced in current days, you'll come to discover some similarities. For insttance, the phenomemon of "there is no real direction, everyone wants to sound like the other one's name is, copyright owning firms don't want to take risks and rely either on past material or / and on releasing the same kind of material over and over again". Followed by "don't take a stand, don't stand for anything really powerful that comes from your own conscience instead of a cliché chest".

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

Oh, there was house music in 80s? I thought it appeared in 90s. Interesting. I agree that 80s crap is mindless. Some really stupid lyrics about primitive stuff.

[matrixmann]

I see that it already existed in the 80s, even though one must say it's a way different deal than what you call "House" these days.
What they did in the 90s was continuing that style still, but by the time it became a craze since the middle to the end of the last decade (only say "David Guetta"...) it wasn't what is used to be.
In music exactly, I could think it was a further development of the Disco music - many Soul-like voices singing, House beats made with Roland TB-808 or TB-909 (I don't remember if they also used it as much) as drum machines don't sound that much far away from, let's say, Saturday Night Fever (I know, the Bee Gees did their own thing in that... They didn't simply copy Black music).
But, don't ask me how present it was in Western clubs or subculture. I really don't know.

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

I see. What do you think of David Guetta by the way? Please don't judge me but lately I really like listening David Guetta and Sia's "She wolf" but I know it is temporary, I will get tired of it soon. And mind just for entertainment, anyway.

[matrixmann]

I think he should burn in hell for putting fabric softener into a synthesizer. 'Cause that's what he did to electronic music.

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

All right, I agree, I don't understand much about synthesizers but I thought he is kind of cheesy and looking like a douche a bit. To hell with him.

[matrixmann]

I think I once managed to get a free sample package that also contained basic drum sounds the Virus TI comes with by nature. This synthesizer is currently like the #1 instrument that all use, especially that soft-boiled House sound of these days is made with it. If you know its sound and have a feeling for it, you'll hear it coming through.
Think I used it in some modern Tracker (like follow-ups of Fast Tracker 2, Impulse Tracker and such stuff) and when you played the drum sounds on very high octaves in the Tracker, the sound of them became very much like what you can hear in bass and snare drums used in House songs since the appearance of David Guetta on the screen.
Like - "Proof: We found out the instrument and we found out the way to play it to get this sound results."

And the Virus TI really doesn't need to sound like it.
Listen to a lot of stuff the Gothic / EBM scene produces with it. No kind of soft-boiled sound like that.
One of the more recent editions of D.Trance series I got into my hands I also think they used a TI mostly or exclusively in the compositions, but I have my little troubles hearing through it determinedly.
So - that makes "it's a matter of how you play and use that instrument". It doesn't sound like that by default.

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

Thanks, that sounds all Greek to me, I have no clue what quality house music is supposed to be so that's why I am a junkie that falls for David Guetta crap. But I don't have much time for music anyway.

[matrixmann]

Better call it "I've done my homework" a long time ago as a listener to electronic music.
House music isn't even my real department; I can only copy from what I understand about structures in Trance music to that genre.