The queer hardness-phobia
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matrixmann“So then, if you have a lot to criticize about LBGTQA+ culture, what is it then what you want instead? What do you want it instead to be like?”
“I want it to be a place that also offers space for hardness. That isn’t afraid of hardness. That constantly doesn’t harbor an obsession with femininity and mentally equates that with the softness that is supposed to be the general emotionality of the human soul. Who the heck has established that association anyway? Isn’t that copycatting “enemy propaganda” or some sort of that?
Also, it would be nice if people weren’t constantly reduced to their sexual orientation or their preferences, but to the personalities they are. Even LBGTQA+ people can be assholes, can be criminals and bitchy creatures, committing morally bad behavior and being personally uneasy to deal with.
LBGTQA+ people also ought not to follow only a certain set of politics that seems like “endorsable” in their situation by outsiders or scene-insiders. For example: What is with those who enjoy their time spending it with guns, spending it in a uniform or a fighting suit, studying the arts of battle? Instead of making a fuss about playing with their genitals? Are they no less part of the group or doesn’t it just not suit a cliché about LBGTQA+ that LBGTQA+ has about itself?
Give those ones a place inside your scene and a steady public representation, so that people who have those preferences don’t feel as excluded and alien as they do now. You have hidden way too long behind your shield of sex and “stand by your sensitive side”! It’s a matter of fact that some people just don’t have that interest so much or that sensitive side inside their personality, or they don’t show it to others in that way which you’d regard as your understanding of “liberated”. They’re just that personality that they are and besides they’re LBGTQA+.”
“I want it to be a place that also offers space for hardness. That isn’t afraid of hardness. That constantly doesn’t harbor an obsession with femininity and mentally equates that with the softness that is supposed to be the general emotionality of the human soul. Who the heck has established that association anyway? Isn’t that copycatting “enemy propaganda” or some sort of that?
Also, it would be nice if people weren’t constantly reduced to their sexual orientation or their preferences, but to the personalities they are. Even LBGTQA+ people can be assholes, can be criminals and bitchy creatures, committing morally bad behavior and being personally uneasy to deal with.
LBGTQA+ people also ought not to follow only a certain set of politics that seems like “endorsable” in their situation by outsiders or scene-insiders. For example: What is with those who enjoy their time spending it with guns, spending it in a uniform or a fighting suit, studying the arts of battle? Instead of making a fuss about playing with their genitals? Are they no less part of the group or doesn’t it just not suit a cliché about LBGTQA+ that LBGTQA+ has about itself?
Give those ones a place inside your scene and a steady public representation, so that people who have those preferences don’t feel as excluded and alien as they do now. You have hidden way too long behind your shield of sex and “stand by your sensitive side”! It’s a matter of fact that some people just don’t have that interest so much or that sensitive side inside their personality, or they don’t show it to others in that way which you’d regard as your understanding of “liberated”. They’re just that personality that they are and besides they’re LBGTQA+.”
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Date: 18 May 2020 07:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 18 May 2020 11:34 pm (UTC)Looked it up - no, word about that didn't really make it around to me.
But I can imagine for myself why that response came back to him...
Musk seems pretty angry with California that they shut down his Tesla factory because of the coronavirus outbreak. (I think he was even like "if I don't get my will, I'm gonna reopen by force!", wasn't it?)
Well, seemingly either he jumps on that Republican train - by using a meme that has become common among them - just to annoy those which shut down his business, and signalize support towards those which would support his will to reopen his business, like a little child. Or, who knows, maybe he really is on that political side.
Well, whatever...
That one of the Wachowski siblings reacted this way, is pretty understandable.
Back then, as the film was made, them two were still brothers, today they're both sisters.
So to say, a group which uses an idea/literal image that they created, which is usually encountered working their best against that kind of people which the two creators are themselves. (They didn't transition simultaneously; one started up and then years after that, the other started it too.)
Of course, this can receive the response of a "Fuck you!" if noticed. Because that what those Republican people made of it for sure wasn't a message which the Wachowski siblings intended back then.
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Date: 19 May 2020 05:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19 May 2020 06:15 pm (UTC)Anyway, it shows more than obviously how much a child this guy is in his head. Or better say: Narcissistic as a little child (the little child you wouldn't hold it against because it's not mature enough to think broader).
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Date: 22 May 2020 02:44 am (UTC)As to the topic of your original post, it does seem rather odd and almost a little bit off putting that the LGBT+ community is so one sided. Where are the soldiers? Where are the hunters? Where the hell are any of the wood workers, mechanics, builders or engineers? I know they are out there! Why aren't they represented too?
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Date: 22 May 2020 09:52 pm (UTC)Damn, it's been the time of the millennium!
Very few people talked concretely about politics (and specific people from that sector), the rest just tried to create art or send out an appeal towards society in general (not just aimed at particular groups)...
Actually, that's exactly what I meant. Where are the men which just have very typical male interests? They DO exist. But why the heck does LBGTQA+ rave the most about literal drag queens, or only highlight it positively if the members of its community behave the most non-binary and are extremely obsessed with sex?
It's almost like just trying to do the exact opposite of that deeply conservative Christian-belief-influenced society only in order to think "that's liberation from our previous path!". You know, like childish or unripe teenage rebellion that thinks "I'll just always be against everything that adults want, that does the job of just being and living different than them!".
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Date: 22 May 2020 11:27 pm (UTC)There is a similar mentality (maybe the wrong word) in the "Left Hand Path" community. A great many disillusioned young people with very little life experience are joining up with groups like the temple of satan (that group with the baphomet statue and predatory copyright lawyers) not because they have any religious reasons, but because it promotes "reproductive rights", narcissistic self indulgence, and extreme anti "right" rhetoric, all wrapped up in plastic shock value. Absolutely perfect for the attention starved young person who hasn't gotten a grasp on life 101 yet.
Not that I am saying all non binary folks are attention starved youngsters but a vast majority of the outspoken ones are and they are much louder than folks who really just want to live their lives in peace and equality without having to pull their pants down and show us their rainbow pubes.
Does the LGBT+ community really truly want to be equal and inclusive or do they not want to admit that they too have prejudice and bias?
The only want to know is to be vocal and ask potentially "offensive" questions.
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Date: 23 May 2020 04:12 am (UTC)In Europe, for example, culture is more sophisticated meanwhile to know that a character can have different traits from the male and female world of thought without that necessarily negating his sexual identity or putting it into question.
Overseas culture needs that because of its very narrowed down imagination how people "have to be" - and, of course, overseas culture contains a lot of emphasis on the individual ego. It teaches people from the very beginning of their lives that they have to shout out how special they are and how to advertise oneself, in order to sell oneself.
I think there are very obviously prejudices and bias even in the LBGTQA+ culture.
Just... for example, simply look at the rhetorics. And everywhere it's the same.
There are certain things that make their appearance quite regularly - like coloring everything in rainbow tones - and things, which actually suited that content frame, they never make their appearance.
It's no miracle that all non-affected people think of their culture that it's a bunch of wimps who are sick in the head or who stay a child forever. If you openly defend someone's supposed "right" to wave you in the face with a feather boa and urge people to still take that person seriously while they totally can't bring themselves to do that because it's just overly ridiculous (or they feel disturbed in general by someone waving an object in their faces without asking for consent about doing that), then there's obviously a "standard" in terms of thinking in the background that people shall adopt.
And, I must say, no miracle they don't want to adopt this standard.
Another thing is the image that the most iridescent people of the scene are like.
They often show pointedly feminine rhetorics on public display; all this glitter and glamour stuff.
Does an equivalent with a very masculine style exist? No, it doesn't.
But it's unrealistic that these figures don't exist as well, if you take in mind the huge character variety that individuals can have.
So, there must be a leaning in the game here.
a reply.
Date: 8 June 2020 04:16 am (UTC)Re: a reply.
Date: 8 June 2020 08:22 am (UTC)(BTW: Noticed that in the sentence with "...and things, which actually suited that content frame, they never make their appearance..." up there, there must be something missing to underline what I was trying to say, but I can't edit it anymore. Put in a subordinate clause that makes it sound like this: "There are certain things that make their appearance quite regularly - like coloring everything in rainbow tones - and things, which actually suited the overall content frame, but don't suit this rainbow scheme, they never make their appearance.")
Actually, the current time episode is something that screams of brutality. You know, what all in uncomfortable things around the globe happen... And, with that much of brutality and violence around, people rather act like a turtle - they duck their heads and flee to peaceful fantasy worlds.
Someone's got to remain left who deals with all this uncomfortable stuff, or otherwise it won't ever go away.
In this point, the call goes out to everyone. Whether standard human or LBGTQA+.
And... one can discuss about it in whatever way, but those uncomfortable things don't vanish into thin air from throwing glitter at them. Simple as it is.