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[matrixmann]

Overseas and Europe is proving their ignorance about Eastern-Europe once again in their full extent.
Journalists do the same job as well.
Every child who knows how to handle a search engine can be taught, only by Wikipedia, significant more information about Крим / Крым (Crimea).
The peninsula owns the status of an autonomous republic, meaning that there are only a few certain departments which they have to negotiate with Kiew. They own the status of a state within the state - and can all whoever they want for help.
That they actually belong to the Ukraine can be considered a result of the breakdown of the Soviet Union.
As they began forming the independent states, sharply it could be avoided to have a referendum who the peninsula wanted to belong to.
The reason why this was nessecary is Crimea once belonged to Russia. In 1954 under Хрущёв (Khrushchev) it was decided that the peninsula may be associated to the Ukraine - the explanations of reasons vary at this point.
Хрущёв could never be able to guess that once is going to be a border between the Ukraine and Russia, so this once was nothing more than a formality (also since Севастополь - Sevastopol - already then was the haven for Russia's fleet in the Black Sea).
So, concluding, people weren't asked if they wanted to be Ukrainians or Russians.
In the past, this also may not have been of importance as the Soviet Union existed, but now as the winds turned in Kiew and the expected future government doesn't represent what politics and people on Crimea identify with anymore (or to put it more drastic: seem to have a certain detestation against anything Russian), the story awakens again and leads to conflict.

Actually the status of Crimea as an autonomous republic in the Ukraine already was a settled compromise to avoid them splitting off in the 90s.
So, if any Western politician tries to accuse Putin of illegetimate action, he should first grab a history book and do his homework. You can like this guy who learned his ways in the secret service and in the East German Stasi or not; but pulling out some backgrounds you can start to get unsure if he's only the bad guy.
As it's said: Crimea can call whoever he wants for help.

Comments

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

Status of Crimea in modern Ukraine is a "defective region": there are many prohibitions for people who are living there.
Attaching this area to Russia - is right step of Kremlin and it's a good for all Russian and Russian speakers in Crimea.
However, unite process will create many problems. It's a exam for Russian establishment.

[matrixmann]

As I could understand the story, it actually is a "mood of history" that this region belongs to the Ukraine.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, they wanted to make a referendum about who the people want to belong to, but this had been cancelled a few days after they announced it (the reasons weren't made public, one can only think what happened then). So, in fact, what's happening now seems like something that should have already been done 20 years ago. (The status as an autonomous republic actually has been a compromise to the will and the affinity of Krim to Russia.)
The thing now only breaks open as there is a government to be expected in Kiew which doesn't hide its detestation for anything Russian and people who understand themselves as Russian fear of what is coming from over there.
...That's at least as I understand it.

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

Yes, you right. I make little history addition: in first part of XVlll Crimea (rus. "Крым") was belong to Ottoman Empire. In 1780 it was conquered by Ekaterina ll while Ukraine as a state wasn't existence. Now it's part of Russian World (as Austria is part of German World, as Hong Kong belong to a Chinese World etc.). I hope that uniting of different parts of Russian people will painlessly for all. General danger in this process named "Turkey", may be NATO.

[matrixmann]

That must be the story of the Tartars... Can anyone consider at all what might be their position to all this? If they're on Kiew's or on Crimea's side - or somebody elses? (since Stalin didn't treat them very well)

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

Yes, they have separate ideology of Tatar Nation State. They have ethnic organization Mejlis (http://qtmm.org/en ), that lobby Tatars interests. They are third side in this conflict. Historically Crimea Tatars were very hostile to a Russian Empire and Soviet Empire. During the WWll 20 000 (near 66%) Tatar Soldiers betrayed Red Army. After that, Stalin deported part of Tatar people.

[matrixmann]

...So that means, if these are also going to join the party, it's really going to get hot.

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

May be

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aeVusnTBY4

[matrixmann]

Seeing pictures like these, it's always going to make you think "What is the CDU-party planning for here?" - since they support movements like these all round the world, including these in Ukraine.
Sometimes there is wishing for Putin stating in a press conference or another live event "Merkel, you are still fighting World War II, aren't you?" - even though you do not prefer a politician like him. But it would be the truth once and for all.

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

CDU-party must protect German interests all over the world. If Ukrainian (and someone else) nazis/islamists/zionists/communists are needed - Merkel must to support them. For German very important to control Galizina (West Ukrainian areas). May be modern revolution will help to economic grab it for German.

[matrixmann]

Galicia - this must be the reason why Polish politicians also support the current movement in Ukraine. (I've heard that they're involved in this too.)
But why is it that important for the West / Germany / EU to control?

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

There is exist important gas transfer infrastructure. USSR was made it for it's needs.

[matrixmann]

This explains something.

[ankramainy.livejournal.com]

Galizina has a gas control, therefore it's a important

[matrixmann]

And if I'm following the notes Google gives out, it once had a lot of mineral resources and it still seems to have mineral resources (including that you seem to be capable to only gain it by fracking).

[kiritch.livejournal.com]

There are a lot of russian people living in Crimea. They speak russian language (Ukranian language is state language, but is used only in media/official papers/etc in Crimea), they have russian culture. When USSR was separating in early 90's, nobody in Ukranian government was listening to this area. In fact, nowadays Crimea referendum is the first time when people can say their wishes. And Western world governments butthurt is very funny, especially in talks about human rights.

[matrixmann]

Say, that is the reason why I write such entries. I don't get it what the West claims. And I don't even really look into a history book to find some clues that makes me question their behavior.
It's horrible what's going on in the Western world that barely one really dares to take a look at history, except for persons with an East German background (those ones have a much less negative relationship to Russia).
It's almost like the lies of a so called "Bush administration" have never been.