The way times are like now, one would even wish to go back to the days of just ranting about the woke mob in social media and the entertainment industry...
...I must admit that I see the need why this move happened, and I find the whole Western world is pretty hypocritical now in their crying about "civilians killed", now that the war has only moved further to the West like the capital Kiev (the people in Donbass and Luhansk suffer from such living conditions for almost 8 years now). But... I had wished that this reversal on the map could have been achieved differently, less politically dirty in the rest of the world.
And last but not least, you feel sorry for people in Ukraine who got involved in this who didn't stand by neither the previous Nazi governments, nor by the current cronyism that tries to reign them.
War never makes you feel good... No matter how good the purpose might be and how inevitable it was.
"And last but not least, you feel sorry for people in Ukraine who got involved in this who didn't stand by neither the previous Nazi governments, nor by the current cronyism that tries to reign them."
Yes, I feel for Ukrainians... They've got fucked by all the parts for extent. But again it looks funny that rich, fat Europeans which had all the chances to stop civil war and even direct manipulator USA are thinking now about it has nothing to do with them... As it maybe was sometimes previously, as if all were not constantly moving to total globalization for half of century lately and if they will try to punish Russia to rob the Europe it will not touch other players as well or, what is more obvious, more severe...
But again, I feel for common Ukrainians and I start feel for all our European community as well...
Indeed, that's another aspect of big hypocrisy... Even the more, if you regard that they spoke of war since December. Now that the war comes true, but not with the conditions they had liked, it's such an incredible problem and they start to insist on the Minsk agreement... What Russia has done ever since it came together. For almost 8 years, Russia has tried to spare the move that it's doing now and the US and the EU have been pouring oil into the burning fire, but supposedly they are the evil ones in that game now...
Well, I guess, it's always just as the fraction which knows it does something that violates the rules paints it for itself. Always all the others are to blame, they never did something wrong...
High politicians and spin doctors can afford it to send the world into chaos, as they always got enough money to buy themselves food, to pay for mobility and all that. They never have to deal with the consequences of losing their jobs because the business they work in goes broke because of economy sanctions or with the landslide that exploding fuel and gas prices cause.
"For almost 8 years, Russia has tried to spare the move that it's doing now and the US and the EU have been pouring oil into the burning fire, but supposedly they are the evil ones in that game now..."
The main thing here is not what Russia did or do but what USA had planned... And I am certain it had planned ww3 at Europe. I want to see all the aspects... to start with UK getting out of EU, USA getting out of Afghanistan to accumulate resources and starting the provocations at Ukraine, pushing Zelenskiy into a hell fire... And again war at Ukraine or in Europe itself is not the goal... The Goal is to rob Europe and when Boris or Biden are asking Europeans to refuce the temperature at their homes is nothing compare it to European businesses dependent on Russian gas or North of Africa depending on our wheat or sunflowers oil which are equivalent of fuel as well... So, yes hypocrisy, stupidity and real hard work of American capitalists to earn more before the declaration of dolar is dead...
Hm, the interpretation of long time plans is always difficult with the US. Because they barely ever plan more than 5 years ahead; literally all firm long-time planning is like a waste of money and time to them. Foreign politics in the US have an ability to plan ahead and an overall memory like that of a day fly, so to say. Plus, they act very uncoordinated, very few pointedly interconnected. And that makes it hard to interpret if what you get to see is the result of a plan, if it is what a plan has involuntarily developed into, if it slipped out of their control (and they're trying desperately to gain it back, but it doesn't really work), or if its the result of a plan of theirs that has completely gone wrong and not played out.
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Date: 17 March 2022 09:29 am (UTC)But... I had wished that this reversal on the map could have been achieved differently, less politically dirty in the rest of the world.
And last but not least, you feel sorry for people in Ukraine who got involved in this who didn't stand by neither the previous Nazi governments, nor by the current cronyism that tries to reign them.
War never makes you feel good... No matter how good the purpose might be and how inevitable it was.
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Date: 17 March 2022 09:57 am (UTC)Yes, I feel for Ukrainians... They've got fucked by all the parts for extent. But again it looks funny that rich, fat Europeans which had all the chances to stop civil war and even direct manipulator USA are thinking now about it has nothing to do with them... As it maybe was sometimes previously, as if all were not constantly moving to total globalization for half of century lately and if they will try to punish Russia to rob the Europe it will not touch other players as well or, what is more obvious, more severe...
But again, I feel for common Ukrainians and I start feel for all our European community as well...
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Date: 17 March 2022 10:12 am (UTC)Even the more, if you regard that they spoke of war since December.
Now that the war comes true, but not with the conditions they had liked, it's such an incredible problem and they start to insist on the Minsk agreement... What Russia has done ever since it came together. For almost 8 years, Russia has tried to spare the move that it's doing now and the US and the EU have been pouring oil into the burning fire, but supposedly they are the evil ones in that game now...
Well, I guess, it's always just as the fraction which knows it does something that violates the rules paints it for itself.
Always all the others are to blame, they never did something wrong...
High politicians and spin doctors can afford it to send the world into chaos, as they always got enough money to buy themselves food, to pay for mobility and all that. They never have to deal with the consequences of losing their jobs because the business they work in goes broke because of economy sanctions or with the landslide that exploding fuel and gas prices cause.
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Date: 18 March 2022 05:34 am (UTC)The main thing here is not what Russia did or do but what USA had planned... And I am certain it had planned ww3 at Europe. I want to see all the aspects... to start with UK getting out of EU, USA getting out of Afghanistan to accumulate resources and starting the provocations at Ukraine, pushing Zelenskiy into a hell fire... And again war at Ukraine or in Europe itself is not the goal... The Goal is to rob Europe and when Boris or Biden are asking Europeans to refuce the temperature at their homes is nothing compare it to European businesses dependent on Russian gas or North of Africa depending on our wheat or sunflowers oil which are equivalent of fuel as well...
So, yes hypocrisy, stupidity and real hard work of American capitalists to earn more before the declaration of dolar is dead...
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Date: 18 March 2022 10:32 am (UTC)Plus, they act very uncoordinated, very few pointedly interconnected.
And that makes it hard to interpret if what you get to see is the result of a plan, if it is what a plan has involuntarily developed into, if it slipped out of their control (and they're trying desperately to gain it back, but it doesn't really work), or if its the result of a plan of theirs that has completely gone wrong and not played out.