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Strangely quiet mass media are about concrete statistics in the current European refugee crisis. You never hear a number in nation-wide broadcasted media about how many people already had been deported back into their home countries again. Or you never hear about how the quotas are, how many people come from which point of the earth. There's only talking about Syrians.
Literally, possessing a Syrian passport is like owning a gold bar during these days.
And it must be fucking Russian media which actually ever tells about a number which they sometimes even took from publications made in the Western countries affected by the problem.
Why doesn't Western mass media report about this on a broader base?
...Well, it seems like there's not enough scandal in this.
Literally, possessing a Syrian passport is like owning a gold bar during these days.
And it must be fucking Russian media which actually ever tells about a number which they sometimes even took from publications made in the Western countries affected by the problem.
Why doesn't Western mass media report about this on a broader base?
...Well, it seems like there's not enough scandal in this.
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Date: 2 October 2015 12:12 am (UTC)I'm against immigration to here, but it is a big taboo to be against that because you are basically anti Muslim- which I guess I am- to an extent. I do think Muslims should be treated very differently after all the terrorist groups, Al Qaeda, Isis, etc..
My father is much more traditionally liberal about it and at dinner with me he was saying how my position was racist and it was the same as how anti slavery people used to want African Americans to go back to Africa. But after we were done arguing about it, he said he wasn't made at me. So, even he knows that it is pretty reasonable to be biased against Muslims after everything that has happened.
My position was that people should work to have Syrian refugees relocated to Egypt or other Muslim countries. Maybe they can have sanctuary for a couple of years, in a guarded community, until a relocation place can be found in a Muslim country.
I also said maybe Western Countries can accept them on condition that the younger male members join a military force to go back and fight ISIS, but I can see that maybe that is unfair to have an entirely Muslim refugee force that includes no Americans.
I just have heard that for instance Saudi Arabia will not even accept one refugee from Syria, but is paying to build 800 mosques, I think, in Germany, so that refugees can continue to be Muslim.
Also,it is very difficult for me to like people from those countries that practice the Muslim religion when the countries their from don't do anything to destroy ISIS which implies they don't do anything to destroy Al Qaeda. It is like how Pakistan knew where Osama Bin Ladin was the whole time, but did nothing. To me, it seems like Muslims want to be on BOTH sides of the terrorist issue and it's not ok with me. I don't know what Muslim people should do now. But to me, they should have violently and passionately been against the terrorists in their own communities and they were not and still are not.
I'm not going to go commit violence or hate crimes against Muslims and I have Muslim students that I am respectful towards, but I am very wary of Muslim people and underneath have problems with their religion.
My father says he has Muslim friends that have Ph.Ds in architecture or engineering and I bet they are a lot easier to be around than the Muslims I meet in my community college classes.
I'm mostly ok with the levels of immigration that I see the United States has committed to. I think we are supposed to take in 75,000 in 2017.
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Date: 2 October 2015 07:10 am (UTC)But, be calmed down, here it is nothing different if you are more than the PEGIDA position "they destroy our Christian-based traditional culture" or the typical Nazi position "all non-white people are bad".
As I see it, the issue must be seen very structured. And that requires knowledge about the Middle East and about the Islam itself.
It's way different than Christian religion and if you stick to see it through this lens, you're not going to see the bigger picture (what is mostly done...).
First, the clues to the fact that these people arriving in Europe are only those of the wealthy classes in their home countries keep getting stronger. Just because who has thousands of dollars to let himself be smuggled over thousands of kilometers across the globe? Only the wealthier people are known to disappear out of their home areas off to abroad. The rest cannot afford it and needs to stay where it is.
- Unless somebody helps this circumstance.
The second is, why does this exodus happen now? The war-torn countries these people are from, they haven't been at war for just yesterday. It's been years. Newly offenses like that what you heard about Kundus this week - okay, you can say, there has been something going on which was out of the focus of media reports.
But on the whole - why now?
If one knows a little about war tactics and traditions of those in the Middle East, you can't fully deny the thought if it might be just a war plan which is carried out now. In the Middle East you don't fight with a traditional army just as here, it's more like structural war. Silent invasion.
Some also point at the words made by ayatollah Khomeini which had already written in a book during or after the Iranian revolution what can be considered as happening now. Building of mosques, streams of Muslim people moving to an area. - And he was of the Shiite camp of the religion.
If looking at it, you can't tell if this is just people fleeing their war-torn countries - or if it is a plan carried out by someone which wants to invade or conquer Europe.
Because the people coming here, they bring their religion and their traditions with them and they claim to continue them here.
In regard to the fact and that rather the Islamic religion currently is on a crusade, rather than Christianity - it may be racistic to do so, but you've got to keep an eye on them, and maybe treat them exceptional from the other refugees.
Because of the known terrorism problem - and currently in the refugee mass anyone can cross the borders leading to the European Union - and also because of the experience these people tend to claim to go on living their traditions from home rather than realizing that's not how the world functions like in the countries they go to.
An alarm signal it should actually be if Saudi Arabia offers to build mosques for these people - because the country is know for fostering extermists all aroung the world with weapons and money.
Surely weapons also my government sells to it and which they refuse to realize the Sauds are going to sell it again.
I don't care at all for building big fences and sorting people out, but at the moment I can't help but say "you need to do it".
The world the activists pretend to exist, it doesn't exist. It's not one happy peaceful world and all will get along somehow. The world's too complicated for that.
I could pour out even more about this subject, but I rather save up some bits just because you never know who is listening.