Migration

[matrixmann]

"Ich bin nicht gegen Flüchtlinge. Sie machen nur die Verhältnisse hier keinesfalls besser."

"I'm not against refugees. They only don't help making the already precarious circumstances over here any better."

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[matrixmann]

And, you know what?
Propaganda is even more a powerful tool if they also take over the messages of what once was "the other side".
Speaking, if you encounter propaganda in ideological territories, made by the reigning structures of capitalism, where you don't expect it.
The matter "diversity in society" once used to be rather an interest of groups contrary to conservatism and capitalism, but, as the state is that it has reached now, it is on the threshold of turning into fascim as well because it tries to silence even healthy criticism.
And you get the impression like this is also the work of the overall system. People that follow it totally don't know, they also don't believe if you tell them.
They believe they follow ideas of "human rights" and "a better society" and "green energy", but in fact they're controlled by the system again. They follow the ideas the system gives them with the meaning of these terms.

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

Totally. In a way, it is genius. They have total control over people's minds with them thinking they are free.

You see they always point out that there was soviet propaganda and I say something like "did you, guys want western propaganda to be in the soviet union?" But the point is the soviet propaganda was in reality showing what capitalist society is like and censorship of any low quality degrading material. It seems outrageous but what western propaganda does is way worse because it is manipulating people and spreading lies.

[matrixmann]

I also keep hearing that often enough. The GDR TV also fought its fight against Western German TV, and today and maybe even back then it was seen as dull state propaganda, like "yeah, all things need to be bad in the West..."
Even though it was also done with taking original pieces out of West German TV.

Today you experience a similar phenomenon with the rise of such media networks like RT or Sputniknews for the German market.
"All just Russian state propaganda what they tell", this is the mantra Western infiltrated media keeps repeating about it here.
But, strangely enough, I find, and others also seem to find, their version seems to be closer to the truth than what is told about subjects through the mainstrem media.
For example, you can see that pretty much by the example of the Syria war. In the beginning, it's all been lies, conspiracy theories or enemy propaganda that there are terrorist going round in that country and that they occupy the towns and kill the people.
What is the common version even in Western media now? "Terrorists going round in Syria, occupying towns and killing people." Even the accusations of use of chemical weaponry slowly turn towards the terrorists in Western media. How credible does it now seem, Obamas famous "red line", the shelling of Ghouta with chemical weapons that allegedly was executed by Syrian forces?
You can see that on that nobody talks about that even anymore in Western press.

Just to say: This time it looks like the press from the East which tells a lot about the lies in the West will win the fight. Because truth first is on their side and second, the West is not able to keep people on its side anymore with its lies that more and more people can see straight through.
But that may be a fight that takes pretty long and comes in small steps...

I see that on how you run against walls in the mainstream if it's about lifestyle ideas - that you can also do something differently and still be what you claim to be.
The forces of that currently are also still very small compared to the bullhorns that always get a voice to spread their ideas.