More than belief

[matrixmann]

What most people that advertise religious tolerance tend to forget: All organized religions that existed and still exist in the world history of human civilization have a political arm, a political division that works towards realizing the political goals of this religion, and making the rules and commandments of this religion secular law that is subject to the judgment of everyone's everyday life before court.

Comments

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

Oh, religious people will never let you be. They need to convert you. Apart from politics, I was always amazed how some religious dudes try to get you into believing. I am usually like, what is you business if I believe in god or not just leave me alone but no, they go into all kind of length to convert you. Like as if they get a prize if they bring many others with them to heaven.

[matrixmann]

That's why I pinned that down. One has the impression like people, in between all their talking about "religious tolerance", they forget how this business actually works.
Or maybe they never experienced it when faithful believers weren't as tolerant to their position in life, so that they understand it by example.
If you encounter people that put very much into this thing, some kind it's like you say. But trying to convert you needn't always look like it on the surface, doesn't even need to be someone's voluntary intention, it just results in that because someone holds so much onto it as a guideline and as a purpose in life.
Saying, it's more that somebody mentions it or picks explanations for the world circumstances constantly out of that frame what his belief is like. Like "God wants all this" or "God will all make sure to protect us all, even the ones that don't firmly believe in him", or "we're all fallen angels and we need to hug and be nice to each other to clean or karma from what made us worthy to fall from the sky".
You can't get past it when talking to this person. He's so caught up in it, he forgets that his God, even if it materially, exists, gave him intelligence and own will just to use it and make decisions himself, not to be stuck on him like a baby forever and for always.
Let's say, attitudes like this always speak very many words about someone's inside in psychological aspects. That's what I get to when I hear this somehow self-pity-like sounding talking. Can't help it, it sounds like it to me...
When I relief myself of all responsibility over my life to make me feel better, what must have happened to me or how cognitively low-gifted must I be? Or, how many bad decisions must I have done in life that I've got the feeling all I do is rubbish?
To me, it seems like a kind of measure to flee from one's responsibility. To not atone for one's sins in life and live with it. Live with it like an adult.