Turmoil and Cold War for Easter

[matrixmann]

The world already practices very hard again how to be illogical and how to escalate things from void of one's own principles:

Some elected head of his regional state gets caught by the police in Germany because the main state searches for him because of a referendum for separation that the people agreed on formally in elections - various states before regarded the international warrant as politically motivated and therefore ignored it, but just of all things, the German state (or federal state?) must make itself accomplice in questionable ongoings again.

Some Russian former secret agent suffers an assassination trial with a nerve agent and all that politicians and media can come up with in a choir is that it could have only been a Russian who did this to him. And, to top it all, that Russian must have a connection to the president of the Russian Federation again - like, aren't there already quite a lot of people out there which someone asserts a connection to him from the outside? 'Cause that claim comes up whenever a Russian citizen gets hurt or dies.
Is it only the mind of a heretic in that, when you get upon the idea that this reflex to always accuse a Russian of killing another Russian (and nobody else than that) looks like some kind of, you know, old classic "prejudice" from the outside?
But the best about that story is to follow: No court has spoken a verdict yet and already Western politicians start handing out international sanctions. Like - when the mob prejudges, then it's called "vigilantism", but when bigwigs do that, best citing "democracy" three times even though they asked nobody of their people if they agree, then it's called "fair and due international politics" and all has its official legitimation?
Well, seems like the prices for gasoline aren't already expensive enough...

...If looking at those ongoings, on top of another couple of dubious processes that take place openly since a few years, if just anybody can still believe that all things run fair and safe in this world, while all this takes place, you can say, it's gullibility, plain stupidity or having absolutely no idea about all these things that you can still believe in those people pulling the strings which you get presented as doing this.
Or you must be solely obsessed with getting your offspring through, like every other wild animal does, or possessed by getting your bread and circuses working for you daily, spending countless money on that.

Comments

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

I am not even remotely interested in this issue. Looks like just fighting between the groups of imperialists and trying to destruct people from real issues with the mass media.

[matrixmann]

I don't know, what does the coverage of the "agent" issue look like on your end, if I may ask?
Over here - better don't pay much attention to it, just observe what results in deeds from it because the issue itself is really not much worth it, only a reason to take actions that had been planned (maybe) for a longer time before...

[onb2017.livejournal.com]

I can't tell you because I never watch tv. Otherwise, they just deny it and try to make jokes. Not worth paying attention.

[matrixmann]

Well, could have been interesting... Don't mind it too much.
Things that you can recognize even from this side anyway is: That dude seemed to have appeared in his damaged state at the right spot in time.
Maybe they were planning anything anyway...

The other news, about the Catalan leader, really was like a cold surprise this week, tell you.

[maadmike.livejournal.com]

"The other news, about the Catalan leader, really was like a cold surprise this week, tell you."

What is about Catalan leader may I ask?

[matrixmann]

Errr, I don't know how much it went through international press, but police arrested them here as he was traveling a land route through Germany back from from Helsinki.

[maadmike.livejournal.com]

This case with Scripal killing shows well how the ruling class governs the common people. When they will like they start war with a crackling of fingers - the moral, rules, democracy all these abstracts are for mindless workers, the lie, manipulation, intimidation the real features of ruling fellas.
Btw, our chemical weaponry specialist has addressed recently on our TV that the Western agencies had at nineties the formula of a substance which presumably was used in killing Skripal and daughter and even publicized it at their documents and not strangely deleted it after but again nobody is interested in real investigation or truth. The masses are much more easily controlled than one man...

[matrixmann]

I'm also acquainted with that thinking: If British authorities can tell you so surely which agent he was poisoned with, then also their own capacities must contain a sample of this stuff.
And when you already got a sample, well, then you can also mix it together yourself, you know what it is made of (maybe not the exact recipe, but you know which substances you have to put together).
So then - what about that stupid talking "it can only come from Russia!"?
Needless to say, "from Soviet production"... Yeah, and during the 90s there wasn't so much of the silverware and everything and nothing sold from the former Soviet empire to anywhere and nowhere in the world? Everything and nothing that was valuable wasn't plundered and sold throughout the world by the new not-Soviet leaders?
This fucking stuff can even be 30 years old and sold through some smart ass from Ukraine.

[maadmike.livejournal.com]

After second attempt UK authorities had told the substance they are thinking was used and our expert has showed the precise formula of this substance publicized at USA official documents through the Internet decades ago, so yes it could be anybody using it nowadays but the reaction of UK telling who is to blame without any open information and any proper investigation makes it obvious who stands behind this act of killing not only our former agent but the citizen of Russia as well… It is interesting how ruthless UK is using this provocation to draw EU which is the UK is no more a part of, to draw EU from normal productive relations with Russia. UK is playing long thought game and all the steps are long on their do-page, I am certain. This case is one of the puzzle to cut Russia out of the EU oil market, to not give Russia an opportunity to earn money to strengthen its economic and military positions.
The ruthless cold manner of doing it amazes me, I am certain that whole Europe country after country reacting as the sheeps expelling our diplomats shows EU is in no good hands and sooner or later we will see much more terrible troubles will getting out of nowhere in a sec than the useless wars with neighbors, millions of refuges, economic wars with constant stagnation and rising of poverty.

[matrixmann]

Aha, now that's a nice info to know...
Well, just the way they're all reacting now, like rats spawning from the sand, it shows they were in a state of, like, waiting for drawing the next reason from some mouldy chest to agree on new sanctions.
If anyone was really interested in finding anyone responsible for this really - see, it's not only the former agent and his daughter who were harmed through this action -, then they'd act differently and there wouldn't be those discussions anew about warning to cut economic ties with Russia from some people and enough of Cold War indoctrinated blabbermouths doing hatespeech against that.

Actually, this step is also pretty stupid in another aspect: The US under Trump actually already said it pretty loud and clear enough that, in case of need, they gonna drop Europe. Europe's not their priority on the list, it's America and resurrecting America's old glory.
If Europe doesn't support them during this course, or is of no use to them in it, then they also cut their ties very short with Europe.
So, with that on the table, not only how dangerous is it to try to catch a ship that's on the leave and that won't wait for you, but also to fuck up your relationship with another player who doesn't have the same in mind?
That's like - how do they say here? - "sawing off the branch which you sit on".
This is really, really stupid by all measures...

[maadmike.livejournal.com]

Yes, the other aspect is that the West allies are not waiting longer and do all fast this means that people in power are hurriedly preparing for something more harmful than the cutting Russia out of EU market. Maybe it is the knowledge of soon dollar dropping, maybe something else pushes them to the dangerous decision to play with Russia. Here in Russia our experts are saying that the UK wishes to use this provocation only to rip our Russian oligarchs which had stolen the Russian dirty money to the “safe” bay at UK to soften the Brexit divorce, others are talking that it is a long play to destroy Russia economically. I hope it is so, because it is certainly useless to try to destroy Russia with any sanctions and I am afraid only of new military provocations like it was at Turkey which could force Russia for military actions. It is interesting to look on this matter from USA side – like they are counting what will be more expensive a war at South Korea or a war with Russia. They are not losing much with a war which involved Russia but Russia is strong and unpredictable and certainly could strike USA in a case. From other side a war near China is certainly an economic disaster which will ruin American economy as well… Interesting to see now as North Korea leader is visiting China as if to pursue an idea to push the Americans big players to somewhere else…

[matrixmann]

Well, you can bet your ass on that it all is supposed to serve some special purpose... Only question often is: Exactly what? That's not always hard to tell.
Trying to get anything done about the Brexit indeed is a very strong suspicion for the UK's case, as all that you hear about their negotiations is like some students which always come to school without their homework. Empty threads, a whole lot of hot air ejected and nothing getting further to realistically do an exit from the EU.
A way out of the situation is also not available - not one without losing face. So, what suits best for such a constallation of circumstances? Solving it safely - or at least make people watch something else, if you can't.
What motives drive that adimistration here, compared against that, that's always a mystery and can be more explained with that fact that (West-) Germany is still territory occupied by the US.
Physically as well as ideologically in its political ranks.
'Cause - it never really suits their economical plans, their economic strategy when they join sanctions.
For example: It's already been quite a few times that some figures pushed for a stop to North Stream 2, without success previously, and all this trying to end the project is in any case a thing that would rather harm Germany than be useful.
Baltic states and Poland frequently critisize it - well, because they're excluded from the use of it, but, well, it's also their own political work they aren't in this 'cause they never miss any demonstration of voicing how much they don't need anything Russian.
And without North Stream 1 and 2, indeed Europe's warm ass in winter is in danger, not even speaking about the fuel for their economies because they still rely heavily on oil and gas...
So... who that sits in that boat could want to abandon these projects? Only a fool.
Or somebody who's as blind from ideology as it can be.
Or somebody who gets money to campaign for this. Plain and simple.
'Cause killing your own branch that you sit on really is dumb.
So that joining sanctions always seems... not really like a decision of love, if you know what I mean. It seems more like an act of "we need to do this as we can't dissent".

[maadmike.livejournal.com]

Yes, surprisingly Austria has called for logic recently in case of poisoning our former and not citizens and told it felt a pressure from EU members to do as all did - to expel Russian diplomats. Sheeps are making noises - "What the fuck the logic you are talking about? The unity! The Democracy! The freedom! These are our landmarks!" ;)

[matrixmann]

"Unity", haha... This union's been without unity for long already...
...Also because of a good bunch of political decisions which obviously don't follow logic.

Let's say - things are pointing at that another shot against Russia had been planned all along again already. Question only is: From which direction comes the smell of the fish. Who seems more like the original perpetrator in this?
Well, this will reveal itself with the time passing. Along with the course of the process.

[maadmike.livejournal.com]

“Question only is: From which direction comes the smell of the fish. Who seems more like the original perpetrator in this?
Well, this will reveal itself with the time passing. Along with the course of the process.”
Here you know thanks to the forced world globalization it could be any side involved in a global economy and strong enough to play in such games – it possible to think that it could be even China if to follow a logic it could benefit from destroying the trade between Russia and UK to force Russia to sell more and cheaper but to take in account the multiplicity of killing of Russian rich expats and the swiftness of reaction of UK authorities to blame Russia without any proper investigation indicates on USA or UK intelligence agencies for sure.
As it was told multiple times on our TV – “Russia has only two allies – Russian army and fleet and history proved this saying many times.

[matrixmann]

Only thing that prevents you from thinking it's some certain parties behind it is: "Doing such kind of things isn't their kind of style. They got better methods to effect the same outcome that one could suspect from a dirty way like this."
So that puts the turn back to those fractions which are not in this favorable position... Who "would really need it", if he wanted to cause a certain effect 'cause there wouldn't be many more ways to none to achieve this.

[mexpatriot.livejournal.com]

I am with you on this. I've been thinking: It's the same old Cold War, anti-Russian crap that I heard when I was growing up in the the 70s-80s. But, now it's more of the "Left" spouting this propaganda than the "Right."

[matrixmann]

I tell myself that's because even the "Left" in the West was caught up by their system at any point in time, and its former members and fighters closest at the origin of the movement didn't want to notice it at that point where stopping that course would have still been possible.
So, now you got this mess without anybody knowing within it "you're on the wrong track, you follow system ideology too".
You only recognize it, within the same stream of thinking, if you got a different thread of development behind you and different influences.

But part of that shit I also tell myself, it's a situation of having a gun (or something else) in your back. "Do as I say or I get me someone else who does!!", you know...