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matrixmannYou know what’s going to be the biggest factor getting in the way of soothing the extent that climate change will have on this blue sphere here?
The international community outside of the Western countries gives a fuck about so-called “green technologies”. They care more about their own development, which had been kept down for centuries by the plundering of the dominant European and North American countries. And that means, cheap energy accessible to the biggest mass of people and local industries carries more importance than making it as exclusive as it can get through applying complex and expensive technologies in the chain, which the bigger parts of the population in the first world countries are able to afford (in whatever way possible to individuals).
The mindset of the Western world and what they think of as “problems” is so far away from those of the rest of the world - literally elevated thousands of kilometers above the ground, figuratively.
So are many other issues such as that of a cultural nature, for example.
The rest of the world literally doesn’t care about the gender-fantasies of twenty-somethings in the US or Europe and their dreams of deconstructing the biological base of the two sexes. Or about rainbow flags, pride months and loudly celebrating LGBT minority rights like they would be a cure against HIV and cancer altogether (rights which quite a chunk of areas in the world don’t have anyway).
There are way more urgent problems to them than such boredom- and living-in-security-driven ergotherapy of emphasizing things that revolve around the aspect of the anthropocentric worldview to overestimate the social ongoings between humans in a society.
To the rest of the world, the classic aspects of the mindset of the anthropocentric worldview are important: Where do humans get a space to live, a roof over their head, food and water for humans, jobs to earn money and chances to procreate - as well as chances to feed that offspring and raise it into an adult.
If you want to get the rest of the world into the same boat as the culturally loony Western part of the planet, then you first rather need to get them to abandon their part of the anthropocentric worldview, in which all natural resources of the planet exist just to serve and be consumed primarily by humans. - Including your own focus where human business and social interaction still also overshadows everything, beside you talking about “wanting to save the world” and “protecting the environment” (inconsequently).
The international community outside of the Western countries gives a fuck about so-called “green technologies”. They care more about their own development, which had been kept down for centuries by the plundering of the dominant European and North American countries. And that means, cheap energy accessible to the biggest mass of people and local industries carries more importance than making it as exclusive as it can get through applying complex and expensive technologies in the chain, which the bigger parts of the population in the first world countries are able to afford (in whatever way possible to individuals).
The mindset of the Western world and what they think of as “problems” is so far away from those of the rest of the world - literally elevated thousands of kilometers above the ground, figuratively.
So are many other issues such as that of a cultural nature, for example.
The rest of the world literally doesn’t care about the gender-fantasies of twenty-somethings in the US or Europe and their dreams of deconstructing the biological base of the two sexes. Or about rainbow flags, pride months and loudly celebrating LGBT minority rights like they would be a cure against HIV and cancer altogether (rights which quite a chunk of areas in the world don’t have anyway).
There are way more urgent problems to them than such boredom- and living-in-security-driven ergotherapy of emphasizing things that revolve around the aspect of the anthropocentric worldview to overestimate the social ongoings between humans in a society.
To the rest of the world, the classic aspects of the mindset of the anthropocentric worldview are important: Where do humans get a space to live, a roof over their head, food and water for humans, jobs to earn money and chances to procreate - as well as chances to feed that offspring and raise it into an adult.
If you want to get the rest of the world into the same boat as the culturally loony Western part of the planet, then you first rather need to get them to abandon their part of the anthropocentric worldview, in which all natural resources of the planet exist just to serve and be consumed primarily by humans. - Including your own focus where human business and social interaction still also overshadows everything, beside you talking about “wanting to save the world” and “protecting the environment” (inconsequently).
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Date: 14 August 2022 11:19 pm (UTC)There are people who dislike coal, so they occupy coal mines and coal power plants.
Then there are some who protest against gas power plants. Either because of the current political situation with your country or because they dislike gas like the first group dislikes coal.
Then you have a third group that has a problem with oil. Wants everything changed to get away from that...
And in the end, all the "alternatives" these groups have to offer are switching away from a certain energy carrier to using more of the other two. Or abandoning them altogether at once.
It's... you know, childish. The matter is spinning in circles. None of any of the three energy carriers is truly "cleaner" than the other. So, exchanging is pointless, as well as giving a certain type of energy carier up just because of a decades-old dogma - because there have been protests against the usage of that energy carrier already one generation of people ago.
This way to act, it seems... well, indeed like groups who are being orchestrated and directed like a 5th column.
Or like people whose parents already held protests and rallies in the 80s in West Germany, and the children got to eat that shit from early on, now pursing the same agenda as adults without any timly update to it.
Or - I think I can put that on the table - this has in fact nothing to with it and these groups of some radical activists are being manipulated into carrying out the sabotage work of a competitor in the same business.
Like when there's constantly some shit going on in and with a peasant's field, and it turns out there's a competitor who wants to acquire the land of the peasant.
Abandoning all of the different fossil fuels would maybe be the correct thing to do in ecological terms, but it's totally unrealistic. As those energy carriers are the driver which actually made this modern life possible. This modern life that enables such people like the activists worry the most about what to study at university instead of keeping a job in order to be able to afford enough food daily, that enables them to travel hundreds of kilometers in just a few hours instead of walking on foot for weks, and that even provides them with the main means these people communicate and coordinate themselves with - smartphones and the internet.
Nobody wanted a downgrade from all that, so this idea can be skipped in an instant...
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Date: 15 August 2022 10:25 am (UTC)I dare to disagree with you
– coal is more dirty than all and now EU is forced to reopen the old coal mines
- Hydro stations are more eco-friendly and not many at EU mass media are telling about this fact
- Atomic stations are second eco-friendly with without any warming atmosphere gases production, and with of course, correct usage – I mean – it is not right to bombard the nuclear power plants as Ukraine army is doing right now – it could lead to a nuclear disaster…
- Gas energy is the third eco-friendly because we do want or not – gas stuck at rapidly warming Siberia frozen lands will get to atmosphere sooner or later anyway and according to scientists will be even more harmful than its burning products – C02 and H2O
- Then come maybe in a row – wind, sun, oil plants if we will count all materials were used on making these mentioned wind, sun plants which are working much more limited time than hydro or nuclear stations consisting mostly from concrete and iron…
“This way to act, it seems... well, indeed like groups who are being orchestrated and directed like a 5th column.
Or like people whose parents already held protests and rallies in the 80s in West Germany, and the children got to eat that shit from early on, now pursing the same agenda as adults without any timly update to it.”
You know, it is maybe not that bad that your not properly educated people are destroying all around. Maybe it is a new circle of history and your society needs it? But these is a problem that it is noticed long ago that such a mechanisms to destabilized society and radicalized it were constantly used before pushing country into a war… First you are making people’s life unbearable and secondly you are telling idiots that – Putin is only to blame – Go get him! So, yes, it is fantastic to wash four places once a month if Germany right now were not participating in a war against Russia, where real people, Russians are dying everyday from Europeans weaponry – they – people of East Ukraine were not making no orange revolution, they were not destroying what their ancestors did in hard work, so why they should suffer?!
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Date: 15 August 2022 01:51 pm (UTC)Here, I think, the Harz area contained a lot of dams.
(But, as in days like now where all the rivers dry out from drought, it might also become a bit hairy to use such.)
Small experiments have also been done with thermal energy, but this is something that shouldn't be used too excessively to not cool off the deeper levels of the earth. (Places with volcanic activity where it comes out by itself anyway, there you could make use of it as you'd do no additional harm there.)
Nuclear energy is... well, a sword with two sides.
Of course, being used properly, and maintained properly, you'll gain something from them. But their big, big disadvantage is: Where to put all the fuel rods that are used up? Their radiation lasts longer than mankind continues to exist.
There is no final depot where you can just drop them off and forget about them...
Needless to say, they can't stand in a seismically active area, neither where they can suffer floods, and they need to be placed close to a river of wherever they can get cooling water for the fuel rods from. You can't build them just everywhere.
So... well, it would be better if not being need of them. The risks and the costs if anything happens are too high and too incapable to be paid with money. Additionally, there's no place on earth for the radiocative garbage.
New cycle of history - hm, maybe...
There have always been cycles where people called to throw the old away and forget about it completely because they deemed the old to be the source of current problems, and to break more free from that.
I still haven't made up my mind about it yet, I still continue to observe - and, the best I can sum it up with until now is "it's a time episode of large and wide-scale changes".
Or, to quote a Funker Vogt song "the old time tunnel will explode". This is what currently seems to take place.